Bill Braden

Thank you. The area that concerns me the most of this whole project, Mr. Chairman, has already been flagged by Ms. Lee, and that is the mention in the bill of an airport user fee of $6.6 million out of the total $11.2 million that will be somehow assessed and collected. Six-point-six million dollars is an extraordinary amount of money to assess on the, I think, relatively small number of users for this airport. I recall in some briefings, Mr. Chairman, that we were told Yellowknife is actually a very busy airport compared to others in Canada for the number of passenger movements. That may well...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Are we going into this with a bottom line of some kind? The Minister has indicated that there might be a financial line there, but there are other things about the timing and the standards that will be set. Are these things also part of our negotiating approach? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll take that, but I think the criteria that I have here is I want to see that Yellowknife and the Northwest Territories is within range of the requirements that are being imposed on airports across Canada.

A couple of other areas in here have to do with the timing of this. Of course, so much of this was forced by the tragedy of 9-11, but that goes back three years now. Now we have this accelerated plan. The government was caused to approve a special warrant on June 30th, four months ago. I would like to know when did the planning and the scoping really start in...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to talk this afternoon too, about cleaning up our act. It is not quite as noble as my colleagues here, but the problem that I am looking at is one that has been around for a long time. That is the legacy that is left over after 60 years of gold mining here in the Yellowknife area. That is the ongoing saga of trying to seek some kind of approval to the processes by which the Con and the Giant mines are going to be cleaned up.

Mr. Speaker, my other colleagues have spoken of this issue many times in this Assembly and in the past one. We continue to see a...

Thanks, Mr. Chairman. There are a few other areas in this thing that I will want to get into, but with the time I have left I guess I’d like to go with this CATSA deal that we got struck with in Yellowknife. It doesn’t seem appropriate that they can be totally arbitrary about what we get and what we don’t get. I mean, every airport in Canada must be in some certain kind of circumstance. If Yellowknife’s situation was such that putting in the explosive system required a huge amount of extra work, can’t there have been some kind of allowance or provision made for that? Perhaps one way to...

I guess I would like to explore a little bit more along the line that Mr. Ramsay had started with. This is $11.2 million just to install an explosive detection system. That's the only information we're given in the bill here. I don't know very much about explosive detection systems, Mr. Chairman, but is it costing this entire amount to put in this thing or is there other stuff that's being done out at the airport in addition to the detection system? Thank you.

Thank you. That's why I asked for clarification, because the second paragraph in the bill -- and this is totally before the public, by the way, we're not popping anybody's secrets here -- the second paragraph says the total additional investment of $11.2 million comes from CATSA and, therefore, user fees, which left the $3.4 million special warrant. So I'm going to ask again, is it a $14.6 million or an $11.2 million total project? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The Minister’s explanation is, I think, off track here. The costs, regardless of how they compare with social housing or public housing, are still deemed to be unaffordable by some of these tenants. So I would again appeal to the Minister to give us a good explanation as to why we aren’t checking or rearranging or realigning this program now, so that it does indeed help those communities that really need it. Thank you.

Thank you. That will do.

Mr. Speaker, I find it a little unusual that the Minister can’t say at this point -- it is winter, it’s freeze-up, those units should be in place and occupied by now -- how many of them are indeed occupied by the people that they were supposed to serve. In light of that, how can the Housing Corporation continue with installing yet more units if we don’t even know if the first have reached the intended audience? Why are we proceeding? Thank you.