Michael McLeod

Mr. Chairman, we would like to have it out for this year. That is what we are aiming for. I can’t say for certain that we will. We will be bringing something forward to committee for consideration when we start looking at the other initiatives and issues including budget allocations, we will have the first chance to present it to committee for their input and feedback.

I will certainly have to agree with the Member’s comments. It is an issue. It is not our issue. We are not alone in this. All jurisdictions across Canada are being treated the same. We have partnered up with all the other jurisdictions including other organizations in the South and in the other two territories to combine our forces and strengthen our arguments to the federal government. We have had, so far this year, one discussion on this issue. We intend to move forward with the new federal government to raise it and see if we can find a solution to this.

Mr. Chairman, all our clients are required to pay a portion of their power bill, so most clients are very diligent about how much power they use.

Yes, Mr. Chairman. The Member is referring to a program that we’ve decided to eliminate as part of our budget reduction program and also as part of our desire to incorporate the many programs that we had historically into a smaller grouping. This will be built into each region’s budget and will be able to be covered off through the different programs that we have. Thank you.

Mr. Chairman, the Member raises a lot of issues. We totally agree there is a need to look at unique situations. When we do look at the core need and we adjust for a number of varying factors including transportation, the condition of units, overcrowding, costs, we also look at the condition ratings, the waiting lists and the LHOs and we try to make our decisions accordingly. This year, probably in a couple of weeks, we will be coming back to the committee to show what the plans for this year are, with the new dollars also included. There are a number of other requests that we need to report on...

I will have Mr. Anderson, who has a better grasp on the history on this, to explain why it is. Mr. Chairman, this amount here is the amount that we are repaying on our debt. The federal government also puts in $9 million that flows through us to repay the debt. Right now, as of April 1st, our debt will be at $66 million. Mr. Anderson would be pleased to talk about the history.

Mr. Chairman, it is a concern and it is on our agenda to sit down with the NWT Association of Communities and also to talk to MACA about looking at some solutions. Mr. Chairman, we know why the communities are doing it; they use the money to offset their costs, but I think the real reason is they know we get a subsidy or have been getting a subsidy from the federal government that they are also tapping into in a roundabout way.

Mr. Chairman, it would be really nice to get to zero, but I don’t think that would ever happen. The national average is actually 12 percent and that’s the goal that we are striving towards. We have 2,200 families right now in core need across the Territories. That’s the rating we use. We look at and analyze people in the communities in terms of the different measurements for suitability, overcrowding, things of that nature.

Mr. Chairman, that is our goal, to reduce the need in all the different areas. The numbers the Member is referring to, the 76 percent and the core need rating was from four years ago. We have, since then, put a lot of units on the ground in the last three years. We put close to 500 units in the communities. We expect the 2009 core need rating to be significantly different. We still will set our budgets according to the core need based on unit costs and the different construction needs in the area.

Mr. Chairman, we already do some of these projects in that fashion. We would be open to that, providing all of the ingredients or all the components of doing the contract in that fashion are there.