Yeah, you know, we already approved previously a list of a bunch of software that we've carried over many times. I guess I'm very skeptical about this one getting also procured in this fiscal year. I think it's a safe bet to see it would be carried over one more time. I get you have to have the money before you go out to tender so maybe we'll squeak in at the end of this fiscal.

I guess can we get a - there's $175,000 here. Can we get an estimate of what the total cost for this would be? I believe at one point we were looking for something a little off the shelf and then we figured out well, it...

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, and I do think that the Department of Finance prepares a briefing note for every single one of these line items that they share in confidence and it doesn't exist publicly, I think a lot of that information would probably save a lot of frustration of us asking the questions to just bring out basic facts on the record. But since we don't have that, I will ask some of those basic facts throughout.

Beginning with I have a different calculation of how much money we lapsed. It was quite a lot more than $2.7 million. But I guess I'll start with can someone tell me what...

No. That's great news. I will ask in August how much the fire centre is going to cost. The people of Fort Smith, I think will be happy, that some amount of money is being spent in their community. Thank you.

Yeah, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I recognize that when there's contractor litigation that, you know, we don't quite know that. I guess I'm looking for a commitment that at some point the housing could release some public information on this. What we often do is we sign NDAs and we add a few more million dollars on to the project and then no one will say anything about that. And it's happened many times in this Assembly, and I would not want this to be a case. I think it is a project that is - the Minister said there are lessons learned. I would like to see what those lessons learned. And I think...

I mean, I somewhat disagree with that. You are asking the Assembly for millions of dollars; you can probably also ask the feds for millions of dollars. Do we have an estimated date of completion for the Fort Smith Territorial Fire Centre? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister responsible for housing. Can the Minister tell us when the Fort Good Hope Seniors Centre is going to open? Thank you.

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. Can I just get a bit more understanding, then, of how this is going to be procured. Will this be normal public procurement, and then I guess the intention is this $1.6 million will be intended to get us design and then we will go out for a public tender? Is this a design bid built essentially, I'm asking, or a design build; what kind of procurement are we using? Thank you.

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. You know, it's obviously in everyone's interest to spend this tens of millions of dollars, I think. We've heard the feds say, you know, well we don't need to give you more community infrastructure money, you're not spending the money we gave you. And I've heard MACA say similarly well, we don't need to increase the community infrastructure budget, there's tens of millions of dollars not being spent. I think we all know if this was just unconditional money to spend on infrastructure, they'd get it done. But sometimes the ICIP project categories were rather specific...

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. I guess my concern is the way I understand this to work is the feds essentially gave us $66 million, they said, get your communities to apply and then you will help decide which ones go forward, not all of the projects communities wanted to do obviously made the first round of cuts and now there are some that, you know, inflation is causing some community needs to reapply or find other money or not go ahead so that money is not available for another community to kind of fill in the gap. That's my understanding of the current situation. So I guess the solution...

Thank you, Madam Chair. This is $29 million being carried over although we are holding approximately $66 million, and I believe there's actually quite a bit more through some other ICIP funding for municipalities. I believe all of this money has been allocated. It's project specific so a community worked with us to apply to the feds and we'll build X thing. But my understanding is, and we got - we weren't going to get all that money out so we asked the feds for an extension, they gave us an extension, but my understanding is that quite a bit of these allocated projects are now at the state...