Rylund Johnson

Yeah, I guess, is there any willingness - you know, I guess - to me, you could publish capital needs assessment and it doesn't mean that you're going to build the things and then we know that our capital needs assessment is billions more dollars than we could ever hope to have. But it would be nice to publicly actually say that, to say that we have $3 billion in needs and we're spending $250 million. Is there any hope of the needs assessment actually being published? Thank you.

Yeah, thank you. Yeah, I would, yeah, like that to committee, of the total cost. My understanding was it was going to cost millions of dollars to build this software and then probably some licensing fees ongoing after that. And some of that, you know, I know is found in capital and some in operations so I was under a different understanding. But I think if committee could get a general update on what's going on here, this is one of those - there's a lot of people. We're the last jurisdiction left in Canada without online map staking. It would be really nice to have a firm deadline. I get it...

Thank you. Yeah, it's tough. I guess the ones that I would have - can I get some explanation, perhaps generally, about why we're lapsing things? Sometimes I understand we have to lapse millions of dollars because it doesn't meet the category for a carryover, but the actual project will go forward. We just didn't get the contract in place so it didn't meet FMB approval and it will get back on the list. And sometimes my understanding is we go out for tender on something, it shows up over budget, and we lapse it and it falls off the capital plan. We are no longer ever going ahead with that...

Yeah, you know, we already approved previously a list of a bunch of software that we've carried over many times. I guess I'm very skeptical about this one getting also procured in this fiscal year. I think it's a safe bet to see it would be carried over one more time. I get you have to have the money before you go out to tender so maybe we'll squeak in at the end of this fiscal.

I guess can we get a - there's $175,000 here. Can we get an estimate of what the total cost for this would be? I believe at one point we were looking for something a little off the shelf and then we figured out well, it...

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, and I do think that the Department of Finance prepares a briefing note for every single one of these line items that they share in confidence and it doesn't exist publicly, I think a lot of that information would probably save a lot of frustration of us asking the questions to just bring out basic facts on the record. But since we don't have that, I will ask some of those basic facts throughout.

Beginning with I have a different calculation of how much money we lapsed. It was quite a lot more than $2.7 million. But I guess I'll start with can someone tell me what...

No. That's great news. I will ask in August how much the fire centre is going to cost. The people of Fort Smith, I think will be happy, that some amount of money is being spent in their community. Thank you.

Yeah, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I recognize that when there's contractor litigation that, you know, we don't quite know that. I guess I'm looking for a commitment that at some point the housing could release some public information on this. What we often do is we sign NDAs and we add a few more million dollars on to the project and then no one will say anything about that. And it's happened many times in this Assembly, and I would not want this to be a case. I think it is a project that is - the Minister said there are lessons learned. I would like to see what those lessons learned. And I think...

I mean, I somewhat disagree with that. You are asking the Assembly for millions of dollars; you can probably also ask the feds for millions of dollars. Do we have an estimated date of completion for the Fort Smith Territorial Fire Centre? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. My questions are for the Minister responsible for housing. Can the Minister tell us when the Fort Good Hope Seniors Centre is going to open? Thank you.

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. Can I just get a bit more understanding, then, of how this is going to be procured. Will this be normal public procurement, and then I guess the intention is this $1.6 million will be intended to get us design and then we will go out for a public tender? Is this a design bid built essentially, I'm asking, or a design build; what kind of procurement are we using? Thank you.