Debates of October 19, 2022 (day 123)

Date
October
19
2022
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
123
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Hon. Frederick Blake Jr., Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Mr. Edjericon, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. O'Reilly, Ms. Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Mr. Rocky Simpson, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek, Ms. Weyallon-Armstrong.
Topics
Statements

Thanks, Madam Chair. Nothing about our guests at the table here, but I move that this committee defer further consideration of the estimates for the Northwest Territories Legislative Assembly at this time. Thank you, Madam Chair.

The motion is on the floor and being distributed. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Abstentions? The motion is carried. Thank you.

Carried

Committee, does committee agree that we shall proceed now to the Department of Justice?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thank you, committee, and thank you to Mr. Speaker and his witnesses. Sergeantatarms, please escort the witnesses from the oh, yes, Mr. Speaker?

Sorry, Madam Chair. Just closing comments here. I'd like to thank the Members for their ongoing support. But seriously I'd just like to thank our witnesses, Ms. Wickens and also Mr. Brian Thagard, our sergeantatarms. This'll be his last budget he'll be presenting after 30some odd years. So big hand of applause. Thank you very much, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Sergeantatarms, please escort the witnesses from the Chamber.

Committee, we will now consider the Department of Justice. Does the Minister of Justice wish to bring witnesses into the Chamber?

Sergeantatarms, please escort the witnesses into the Chamber.

Welcome. Minister, would you please introduce your witnesses.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I have Charlene Doolittle, the deputy minister for the Department of Justice, and James Bancroft, the director of corporate services.

The committee has agreed to forego general comments. Is the committee agreed to proceed to the detail contained in the tabled document?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Committee, the Department of Justice begins on page 60. We will defer the departmental totals and review the estimates by activity summary beginning at page 61, with Corrections, with information items on page 62. Questions, comments? Member for Yellowknife North.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm just looking at the line item for specialized courts and integrated case management services tenant improvements in Yellowknife. We're making some office improvements for integrated service delivery model. Can I just get a bit more explanation of what that is and what building that's in. Thank you.

Thank you, Member. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. You know, I'll just hand it to Mr. Bancroft. He has the details on this one.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Bancroft.

Speaker: MR. BANCROFT

Thank you, Madam Chair. To answer the Member's question about the location of the building, currently it's in what's been known as the old highways building in Yellowknife and on the main street. And the details about the tentative improvements is to make the space for useable for the program that's operating in there, that being integrated case management and the specialized courts.

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Do we have a total cost for that project? Just concerned about how much money we're putting into what I assume is a Northview building. Thank you.

Thank you, Member. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. So as I understand it, the costs aren't laid out in the capital estimates. Thank you.

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

Can someone tell me who owns that building, Madam Chair?

Thank you. I don't I'm not sure who the owner of that building is, thank you. But we can find out and get that information to the Member. Thank you.

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

Thank you for that commitment. Can the Minister confirm that he will publicly provide that information. Thank you.

Sorry, can you repeat your question.

I got a commitment there to find out who's well, some undisclosed amount of money into someone's building that we don't own. But I'm wondering if we can get the commitment that we will publicly tell us what owns this building for the undisclosed amount of money. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Member. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I have no problem disclosing who the building owner is. Thank you.

Thank you. Are there any further questions, comments under this section?

All right, so please return now to the departmental summary found on I just about missed the budget line. All right, so Justice, corrections, infrastructure investment, $1,480,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thank you, Members. Please return now to the departmental summary found on page 60, Justice, 20222023 Capital Estimates, $1,480,000. Mr. O'Reilly.

Committee Motion 298-19(2): Tabled Document 723-19(2): Capital Estimates 2023-2024 – Justice - Assembly – Deferral of Department (page 60), Carried

Thanks, Madam Chair. Did we skip court services and services to the public? Okay, 20232024. Got it.

Madam Chair, I move that this committee defer further consideration of the estimates for the Department of Justice at this time. Thank you, Madam Chair.

The motion is on the floor and being distributed. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Abstentions? Thank you. The motion is carried.

Carried

Thank you, committee, and thank you to the Minister. Sergeantatarms, please escort the Minister from the Chamber. Or, the witnesses. Remove the Minister. Take them all out. I don't have that authority, no.

Does the committee agree to proceed to the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Committee, we will now consider the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs. Does the Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs wish to bring witnesses into the Chamber?

Thank you. Sergeantatarms, please escort the witnesses into the Chamber. Minister, would you please introduce your witness.

On my left is deputy minister Gareau.

Welcome. The committee has agreed to forego general comments. Is the committee agreed to proceed to the detail in the tabled document?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Committee, the Department of Municipal and Community Affairs beginning on page 68. We will defer the departmental totals and review the estimates by activity, beginning at page 69, with the regional operations with information items on page 70.

Municipal and Community Affairs, regional operations, infrastructure investments, $29,160,000. Any questions, comments? Member for Yellowknife North.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I see there's $29 million here, and it's going to 33 communities. We list all the communities on page 70 but we don't say how much they're getting. Is the Minister willing to provide public breakdown about how much each of these communities is getting? Thank you.