Debates of November 1, 2022 (day 130)

Date
November
1
2022
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
130
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. O’Reilly, Ms. Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Mr. Rocky Simpson, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek, Ms. Weyallon-Armstrong.
Topics
Statements

Mahsi. Health and Social Services, administrative and support services, not previously authorized, $430,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Health and Social Services, health and social programs, not previously authorized, $2,683,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Mahsi, committee. Health and Social Services, total department, operations expenditures, not previously authorized, $3,113,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Committee, please turn to page 8 of the tabled document, Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment.

Industry, Tourism and Investment, corporate management, not previously authorized, negative $16,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Industry, Tourism and Investment, economic diversification and business support, not previously authorized, $1,044,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Industry, Tourism and Investment, tourism and parks, not previously authorized, negative $17,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Mahsi, committee. Industry, Tourism and Investment, total department, operations expenditures, not previously authorized, $1,011,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Committee, please turn to page 9 of the tabled document, Department of Infrastructure, asset management, not previously authorized, $58,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Infrastructure, energy and strategic initiatives, not previously authorized, $300,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Infrastructure, programs and services, not previously authorized, $153,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Infrastructure, regional operations, not previously authorized, $10,272,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Mahsi, committee. Infrastructure, total department, operations expenditures, not previously authorized, $10,783,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Committee, please turn to page 10 of the tabled document. Department of Justice.

Justice, community justice, not previously authorized, $1,201,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Justice, court services, not previously authorized, $201,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Justice, legal aid services, not previously authorized, $1,369,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Justice, policing services, not previously authorized, $5,314,000. Does committee agree? Mr. Johnson.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I see $5 million here for the RCMP collective agreement. My understanding is that there's a bit of a dispute about how the collective agreement is going to apply to the back pay or retroactively. Can I just clarify whether this is the total amount we owe for the collective agreement or whether this $5 million is just one this fiscal year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. This is for 20222023 or this current fiscal year only. And I don't have detail as to what may or may not be happening with respect to retroactive pay that flows from the collective agreement, the newly agreedto collective agreement. Thank you.

Yeah, okay. I think there was two or I can't remember, two or three years of retroactive pay. I see $5 million one year. So is it safe to assume that there's 10 or $15 million more coming to the RCMP? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, Mr. Chair, this first collective agreement spans from April 1st, 2017, through to March 31st, of 2023. I don't know offhand what those costs for the retroactive pay will look like, nor do I necessarily know what cost share ratio there might be associated. Obviously, we'll have to come back before the House when or if that is resolved and likely through the form of a supplementary appropriation. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Okay, and just confirming that this brings our policing services contract with the RCMP up to $55 million? Is it then anticipated for the remainder of this collective agreement that would be the total amount of the contract, or is there some other thing going on where we may be more than $5 million built into next fiscal? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So, Mr. Chair, the current agreement is in effect, as I said or this portion here, now we do have until 2023. There's an agreement that I believe has been reached up to March 31st of 2032, and it will then be built in for the Department of Justice in their main estimates so that in future years it will be reflected through the usual appropriations process. Thank you.

No further questions. Thank you.

Mahsi. Justice, policing services, not previously authorized, $5,314,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Justice, services to the public, not previously authorized, $239,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Mahsi, committee. Justice, total department, operations expenditures, not previously authorized $8,324,000. Does committee agree?

Committee, please turn to page 11 of the tabled document, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs.

Municipal and Community Affairs, community operations, not previously authorized, $40,000. Does committee agree? Mr. Johnson.

Thank you. So there's $39 million here for the flooding, bringing the total appropriation to $117 million, I'm just going to round here. Can I just clarify whether this includes I believe there was a $60 million special warrant. Whether how that fits into this figure. Thank you.