Debates of March 8, 2023 (day 148)

Date
March
8
2023
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
148
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Hon. Frederick Blake Jr., Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. O’Reilly, Ms. Semmler, Mr. Rocky Simpson, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek, Ms. Weyallon Armstrong
Topics
Statements

Thank you for that commitment. Member for Yellowknife North.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yeah, and part of the reason well, I'm interested is because our current leasing policy requires us to do a lease versus ownership analysis every time we enter into a lease. I'm quite confident we're not doing that, especially not on renewals. But could the Minister perhaps commit to looking at all of this leasing money and just doing some sort of desktop lease versus ownership exercise. And I get sometimes we do it for new space but we kind of just seem to roll over and renew the buildings last minute without doing that required analysis as per the policy. Can we do that for our whole portfolio perhaps? Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, when evaluating the lease versus ownership, every scenario is unique. Although the building ownership may provide the best value in one situation, it doesn't mean it's the right approach for all the situations. And I think I've mentioned this before, the larger leases such as office buildings would not you know, there's a variety. In some of our communities, we lease from local. Within the larger centres, you know, we have different approaches as well. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. I recognize each one's unique. And one of my favourite unique ones is actually not Northview, it's Northern United Place. We signed a longterm lease with Northern United Place. It's allowed them to provide multiple units of discounted housing for vulnerable people for decades. And we were actually willing to pay a little more for that longterm lease knowing that it would be kind of a combined commercial and residential that would house some people. I think it's kind of a great model, and we never did it again for some reason. But I guess in the form of some questions, can someone let me know whether Northern United Place is included in this $127 million of lease commitments, or would that be found under Aurora College? Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, yes, it is.

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

I don't know, I guess I'll just end with a comment. I would encourage the department to relook at its whole leasing portfolio; use the NUP model. I also am very concerned that we are going to eventually end that NUP lease and put a lot of vulnerable people at risk. But I guess I'll just leave it at that. Thank you.

Thank you, Member. Are there any further questions to the information items? Seeing none, thank you, Members. Please return now to the departmental summary found on page 251.

Revenue summary, information items on page 252 and 253. Questions.

Seeing no questions, committee, I will now call the department summary of Infrastructure, operations expenditures, total department, 20232024 Main Estimates, $309,335,000. Member for Frame Lake.

Committee Motion 378-19(2): Tabled Document 813-19(2): 2023-2024 Main Estimates – Infrastructure – Deferral of Department (page 251), Carried

Merci, Madam la Presidente. I thought we'd never get here. I move that this committee defer further consideration of the estimates for the Department of Infrastructure at this time. Mahsi, Madam Chair.

The motion is in order. To the motion?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? All those abstaining? The motion is carried. Consideration of Department of Infrastructure, 20232024 Main Estimates, operating expenditures, total department, is deferred.

Carried

Thank you, Minister. Thank you to the witnesses for appearing before us. Sergeantatarms, please escort the witnesses from the Chamber.

Member for Frame Lake, what is the wish of committee?

Thanks, Madam Chair. I move that the chair rise and report progress. Thank you.

There's a motion on the floor to report progress. The motion is in order and is nondebatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

Carried

I will now rise and report progress.

Report of Committee of the Whole

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

May I please have the report of Committee of the Whole. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes.

Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Committee Report 45-19(2) and Tabled Document 81319(2), 2023-2024 Main Estimates, and would like to report progress with six motions adopted. And, that consideration of Committee Report 45-19(2) is concluded. And, Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Do we have a seconder? Member for Monfwi. All those in favour? All those opposed? Any abstentions? The motion is carried.

Carried

Orders of the Day

Speaker: Mr. Glen Rutland

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Orders of the day for Thursday, March 9th, 2023, 1:30 p.m.

Prayer

Ministers’ Statements

Members’ Statements

Returns to Oral Questions

Oral Question 1343-19(2), Impacts of COVID-19 on Education

Oral Question 1404-19(2), Child Care Funding Supports for Teen Parents

Oral Question 1411-19(2), Renewable Energy

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Acknowledgements

Oral Questions

Written Questions

Returns to Written Questions

Replies to Commissioner Address

Petitions

Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

Reports of Standing and Special Committees

Tabling of Documents

Notice of Motions

Motions

Motion 75-19(2), Maximum Allowable Rent Increase for Private Rental Units

Motion 76-19(2), Extended Adjournment of the House to March 27, 2023

Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

First Reading of Bills

Bill 76, An Act to Amend the Elections and Plebiscites Act

Second Reading of Bills

Bill 64, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, No. 3

Bill 74, Forest Act

Bill 75, Council of Women and Gender Diversity Act

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bill 23, An Act to Amend the Public Utilities Act

Bill 29, Resource Royalty Information Disclosure Statute Amendment Act

Bill 60, An Act to Amend the Petroleum products and Carbon Tax Act

Bill 61, An Act to Amend the Ombud Act

Bill 63, An Act to Amend the Official Languages Act

Bill 66, An Act to Amend the Property Assessment and Taxation Act

Bill 67, An Act to Amend the Fire Prevention Act

Bill 68, An Act to Amend the Child Day Care Act

Bill 73, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, No. 4

Committee Report 40-19(2), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on Bill 61: An Act to Amend the Ombud Act

Committee Report 43-19(2), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on Bill 63: An Act to Amend the Official Languages Act

Committee Report 44-19(2), Special Committee on Reconciliation and Indigenous Affairs Final Report: A Northwest Territories Approach to the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples and Negotiating Agreements

Minster’s Statement 264-19(2), Response to the NWT Chief Coroner’s Report on Suicide

Tabled Document 681-19(2), Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Committee Report 26-19(2): Report on the Child and Family Services Act – Lifting Children, Youth and Families: An All of Territory Approach to Keeping Families Together

Tabled Document 694-19(2), Northwest Territories Coroner Service 2021-2022 Early Release of Data

Tabled Document 813-19(2), Main Estimates

Tabled Document 881-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023

Tabled Document 882-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023

Tabled Document 883-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 20232024

Report of Committee of the Whole

Third Reading of Bills

Orders of the Day

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. This House stands adjourned until Thursday, March 9th, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.

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The House adjourned at 7:56 p.m.