Debates of March 27, 2023 (day 150)
Thank you, Madam Chair. Unfortunately I do not have that information in front of me at this moment.
Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.
Okay, thanks. I'm happy to get a commitment out of the Minister if she can pull together that information and provide it to me publicly. Thanks, Madam Chair.
Thank you. Minister.
Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm sure we can do that. Thank you.
Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.
Yeah, okay. And I just continue to make these observations about how this department is very successful at securing extra money for development of regulations, implementing the new Mineral Resources Act, and other departments either don't go to the well or if they do, they're refused. You know, and the Forest Act in particular, you know, Protected Areas Act in the past, the Public Land Act, those departments seem to have to work within their existing budgets to get that work done, and I think it's suffered as a result of that. So I don't expect an answer from this Minister. But I just continue to make that observation, that some departments either don't go to the well or if they do, they're turned down. But when it comes to the mining stuff, no problem. The extra money just flows from the tap. Thanks, Madam Chair.
Thank you. Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023 Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, operations expenditures, economic diversification and business support, not previously authorized, negative $231,000. Does committee agree?
Agreed.
Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023, Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, operation expenditures, mineral and petroleum resources, not previously authorized, $361,000. Does committee agree?
Agreed.
Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023, Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, operation expenditures, total department, not previously authorized $130,000. Does committee agree?
Agreed.
Please turn to page 11. Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023, Department of Infrastructure, operation expenditures, corporate management, not previously authorized, $477,000. Does committee agree?
Agreed.
Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023 Department of Infrastructure, operation expenditures, energy and strategic initiatives, not previously authorized $375,000. Does committee agree?
Agreed.
Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023, Department of Infrastructure, operation expenditures, total department, not previously authorized, $852,000. Does committee agree?
Agreed.
Thank you. Please now turn to page 12. Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023, Department of Justice, operation expenditures, court services, not previously authorized, $1,036,000. Does committee agree?
Agreed.
Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023, Department of Justice, operations expenditures, policing services, not previously authorized, $808,000. Does committee agree?
Agreed.
Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023, Department of Justice, operation expenditures, services to the government, not previously authorized, $755,000. Does committee agree?
Agreed.
Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023, Department of Justice, operations expenditures, total department, not previously authorized, $2,599,000. Does committee agree?
Agreed.
Please turn to page 13. Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023, Department of Lands, operation expenditures, operations, not previously authorized, negative $205,000. Member for Frame Lake.
Thanks, Madam Chair. Can I get an explanation as to why this is being shifted from what used to be or will soon be former Department of Lands to Department of Finance. Thanks, Madam Chair.
Thank you. Minister.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, ISSS or information shared system services within Finance is now managing the LTOS project so that's why it is going there. Thank you.
Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.
Thanks, Madam Chair. So, you know, I think it was in the last Assembly I think it was in the last Assembly where 77 staff people were kind of culled from different departments that had been previously working on different, you know, IT stuff, and they're all put into Finance now and because it was apparently going to be more effective and efficient. Has there actually ever been an evaluation done of the transfer of the funding and staff into the Department of Finance? Thanks, Madam Chair.
Thank you. Minister.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Not as of yet. This is only the first sort of well, this will be the first full Assembly where ISSS has been in existence. So I don't know that and with the two years that were somewhat lost to COVID, I don't know that we would have been in a position at this point. But certainly the Department of Finance, including ISSS, has been part of the government renewal process and is live to the fact that we're shifting towards a more evaluative process. So I'll certainly take note of the Member's comments and can report back to the department and see where and when we would fall within a more evaluative process. Thank you.
Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.
Thanks, Madam Chair. So is there any kind of annual satisfaction survey ever done of ISSS and the services that they offer to the departments? Thanks, Madam Chair.
Thank you. Minister.
Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I gather there has been some work done internally within the government as to their satisfaction with ISSS. That was done on the operations side. But I can endeavour to see what information may be available. Thank you.
Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.
Yeah, thanks, Madam Chair. Yeah, I would be very interested in seeing that because I I've heard rumblings about some departments not being able to get work done in a timely fashion or that they have to go outside, and there seems to be some issues there. And not knowing enough about it, if there was some information that the Minister could share and if it has to be done on a confidential basis, that's okay in this case, but I'm not convinced that this move of these 77 people and centralizing this has actually made anything more effective or efficient. So anything the Minister can provide on that in satisfactions levels of the departments that they're supposed to be providing a service to would be helpful, and I look forward to receiving that information. Thanks, Madam Chair.
Thank you. Minister.
Thank you, Madam Chair. So to clarify, we'll provide the copy of the survey results confidentially to MLAs but I would also say we'll put something together that we could put together with the public information that is coming as a result of commitments. I know it does get raised in the House with respect to IT projects and what's happening with them. And there are you know, it takes a bit of time for a new team to come together, and I know there's been some projects, Mineral Resources Act being one, that wind up going back to a department function. So some understanding as to the benefits of having moved IT together is probably valuable. So we'll do both in terms of providing the private results but also something that can be shared. Thank you.
Thank you. Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023, Department of Lands, operations expenditures, operations not previously authorized, negative $205,000. Does committee agree?
Agreed.
Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023, Department of Lands, operation expenditures, total department not previously authorized, negative $205,000. Does committee agree? Thank you.
Please turn to page 14. Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023 Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, operation expenditures, sports, recreation, and youth not previously authorized, $394,000. Does committee agree?
Agreed.
Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, operations expenditures, total department not previously authorized, $394,000. Does committee agree?
Agreed.
Thank you, committee. Do you agree that you have concluded consideration of Tabled Document 88219(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operation Expenditures), No. 3, 20222023? Member for Frame Lake.