Debates of May 31, 2023 (day 158)

Date
May
31
2023
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
158
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Hon. Frederick Blake Jr., Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Mr. Edjericon, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. O’Reilly, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Ms. Semmler, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek
Topics
Statements

Okay, thanks. So maybe I'll just ask a simple question. Is the work done? Thank you.

The full work is not done, Madam Chair. There is - it's expected to have - to see further work this summer, 20242025, and 20252026. Thank you.

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

Okay, thanks. So where is the authorization to carry forward this money? Is it in this supplementary appropriation, or where is it? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Madam Chair, you'd only see carry over if the amounts that were previously approved were not fully spent. So, again, if there's no need for a carryover, you wouldn't necessarily see it here, but it certainly hasn't disappeared from the infrastructure acquisition plan, and then it would reappear on the capital estimates coming through for 20242025 later this year. Thank you.

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

Okay. Clearly, I'm not an accountant. This funding was authorized in 20212022. The project is not done. And here you've got a public call for people to express their views on this and closing this year. Why is the authorization to carry over the money from 20212022 to future years? Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm not an accountant either. Let me take one run at it and if - but if not, I can certainly ask one of the folks with me to do so. But the money only needs to come in as a carryover if that amount is required in the upcoming year. So if the amount for 20222023 wasn't spent and was required in 20232024, it would be a carryover. For a multiyear project, if there's going to be future asks coming in for 2024-2025 in our capital plan, then you'll see it in the capital plan. But in a multiyear project, it may well be that they don't need to carry over an amount from 20232024 into this one. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

Thanks. So was this carryover, then, authorized in the 20232024 Capital Estimates? Thank you.

Madam Chair, let me turn that one to Mr. Courtoreille, please.

Thank you. Mr. Courtoreille.

Speaker: MR. COURTOREILLE

Thank you, Madam Chair. I recall that there is an amount budgeted in 20232024. That was approved through the capital estimates last fall. There's no carryover being proposed from 20222023 into 20232024. And, again, this is a multiyear project expected to be completed in 2025. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you. Your time has expired. I think we I think this is a conversation that Member can have with the Minister and her staff to try and figure out that.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Infrastructure, capital investment expenditures, asset management, not previously authorized, $14,047,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Infrastructure, capital investment expenditures, programs and services, not previously authorized, $19,050,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Infrastructure, capital investment expenditures, total department, not previously authorized, $33,097,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Please turn to page 19. Supplementary estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Justice, capital investment expenditures, corrections, not previously authorized, $1,226,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024 Department of Justice, capital investment expenditures, court services, not previously authorized, $95,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Justice, capital investment expenditures, total department, not previously authorized, $1,321,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thank you, committee. Do you agree that you've concluded consideration of Tabled Document 94019(2), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Member for Frame Lake.

Committee Motion 464-19(2): Tabled Document 940-19(2): Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2023-2024 – Deferral of Estimates, Carried

Thanks, Madam Chair. I move that this committee defer further consideration of Tabled Document 94019(2), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, at this time. Mahsi, Madam Chair.

Thank you. The motion is being distributed. To the motion?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried. Consideration of Tabled Document 94019(2) is deferred.

Carried

Thank you, Minister, and thank you to the witnesses for appearing before us. Sergeantatarms, you can escort the witnesses from the Chamber.

Member for Frame Lake.

Merci, Madame la Presidente. I move that the chair rise and report progress.

Thank you. The motion is on the floor to report progress. The motion is in order and nondebatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

Carried.

I will now rise and report progress.

Report of Committee of the Whole

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Bill 90 and Tabled Document 94019(2) and would like to report progress with one motion carried and that Bill 90 is ready for third reading. And, Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Do we have a seconder? Member for Yellowknife South. All those in favour? All those opposed? Any abstentions? The motion is carried.

Carried

Orders of the Day

Speaker: Mr. Glen Rutland

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Orders of the day for Thursday, June 1st, 2023, at 1:30 p.m.

Prayer

Ministers’ Statements

Members’ Statements

Returns to Oral Questions

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Acknowledgements

Oral Questions

Oral Question 1548-19(2), Indian Day Schools

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Acknowledgements

Oral Questions

Written Questions

Returns to Written Questions

Replies to the Commissioner’s Address

Petitions

Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

Reports of Standing and Special Committees

Tabling of Documents

Notices of Motion

Motions

Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

First Reading of Bills

Bill 93, Practice of Engineering, Geoscience and Applied Science Technology Act

Bill 94, Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act, 2023

Second Reading of Bills

Bill 64, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, No. 3

Bill 92, An Act to Amend the Petroleum Products and Carbon Tax Act, No. 2

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bill 23, An Act to Amend the Public Utilities Act

Bill 29, Resource Royalty Information Disclosure Statute Amendment Act

Bill 72, Opioid Damages and Health Care Cost Recovery Act

Committee Report 52-19(2), Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures Report on the Review of the Rules of the Northwest Territories Legislative Assembly

Minster’s Statement 264-19(2), Response to the NWT Chief Coroner’s Report on Suicide

Tabled Document 681-19(2), Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Committee Report 26-19(2): Report on the Child and Family Services Act – Lifting Children, Youth and Families: An All of Territory Approach to Keeping Families Together

Tabled Document 940-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20230-2024

Tabled Document 941-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 2, 20230-2024

Report of Committee of the Whole

Third Reading of Bills

Bill 90, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, No. 5

Orders of the Day

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. This House stands adjourned until Thursday, June 1st, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.

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The House adjourned at 5:31 p.m.