Debates of May 31, 2023 (day 158)

Date
May
31
2023
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
158
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Hon. Frederick Blake Jr., Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Mr. Edjericon, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. O’Reilly, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Ms. Semmler, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek
Topics
Statements

Yeah, thank you, Madam Chair. Can I just get a bit more understanding, then, of how this is going to be procured. Will this be normal public procurement, and then I guess the intention is this $1.6 million will be intended to get us design and then we will go out for a public tender? Is this a design bid built essentially, I'm asking, or a design build; what kind of procurement are we using? Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, this is the advanced work to then be able to put it out for a design build through a public procurement process. Thank you.

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

Thank you. Is there any federal money for this type of thing? Thank you.

Thank you. Minister of Finance.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I don't know that I have federal money allotted to this as of yet. Certainly there are always chances to go and ask but, at this point, Madam Chair, I don't - there's no indication at this point that we have federal dollars attached to it and given that we don't have a final budget, I think it would be arguably premature to go and ask just yet. If we're going to ask, let's know what we're asking for. Thanks, Madam Chair.

Thank you. Member for Yellowknife North.

I mean, I somewhat disagree with that. You are asking the Assembly for millions of dollars; you can probably also ask the feds for millions of dollars. Do we have an estimated date of completion for the Fort Smith Territorial Fire Centre? Thank you.

Thank you. Minister of Finance.

Thank you, Madam Chair. 2026.

Member for Yellowknife North.

That's pretty good. That's a pretty quick turnaround. I will be genuinely surprised if we complete this on time and on budget in 2026, whatever that budget may end up ultimately being.

I guess back to my previous point, I could do this for every single capital project you know, is there federal money, when is it starting construction, when is it completing construction, what are you doing with the initial assessment, how is it being procured, how much is the total budget - I've never gotten an answer to that one but, you know, one day hopefully.

I would encourage the GNWT, before it comes and asks for millions of dollars from the legislature, to just state those basic answers. I find it very odd that the way we announce we're building a fire centre is with a one-line item in this. It's a good news story. It's very odd that we don't answer those basic questions before asking for millions of dollars.

I guess, in the form of a question, when can we expect to know how much this fire centre is going to cost us? Thank you.

Member, did you have any further questions?

No. That's great news. I will ask in August how much the fire centre is going to cost. The people of Fort Smith, I think will be happy, that some amount of money is being spent in their community. Thank you.

Thank you. Supplementary estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Environment and Climate Change, capital investment expenditures, total department, not previously authorized, $6,204,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Please turn now to page 13. Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Finance, capital investment expenditures, management board secretariat, not previously authorized, $5,864,000. Does committee agree? Member for Frame Lake.

Thanks, Madam Chair. So it doesn't seem like there's a lot of information here. Where's this fibre line going from and to? Thanks, Madam Chair.

This is continuing in the completion of the Mackenzie Valley fibre line between Inuvik and Tuktoyaktuk, Madam Chair.

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

Yeah, okay, that's good to know. Can we not kind of include a little more detail in the sups where, you know, where a project's actually taking place in the future? Thank you.

Certainly, Madam Chair, that - we can certainly - yes. Yes, Madam Chair.

Member for Frame Lake, no?

Good job, Minister.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Finance, capital investment expenditures, Management Board Secretariat, not previously authorized, $5,864,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Finance, capital investment expenditures, Office of the Chief Information Officer, not previously authorized, $1,867,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Finance, capital investment expenditures, Office of the Comptroller General, not previously authorized, $432,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Finance, capital investment expenditures, total department, not previously authorized, $8,163,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Please turn to page 14. Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Health and Social Services, capital investment expenditures, administrative and support services, not previously authorized, $6,880,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Health and Social Services, capital investment expenditures, health and social programs, not previously authorized, $5,261,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Health and Social Services, capital investment expenditures, long term and continuing care services, not previously authorized, $7,176,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Health and Social Services, capital investment expenditures, total department, not previously authorized, $19,317,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Now turn to page 15. Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, capital investment expenditures, economic diversification and business support, not previously authorized, $2,780,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, capital investment expenditures, mineral and petroleum resources, not previously authorized, $175,000. Member for Yellowknife North.

Thank you, Madam Chair. This is our famous MARS, Mineral Administration Registry System. And I believe, you know, this is required to get us into online map staking. I believe to do that we got to implement the Mineral Resources Act and get the regs done. We've carried this over a number of times. Can we just have a realistic timeline of when we would actually buy the software and have online map staking in place? Thank you.

Thank you. Minister of Finance.