Debates of August 28, 2023 (day 161)

Date
August
28
2023
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
161
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie (remote), Hon. Frederick Blake Jr., Mr. Bonnetrouge (remote), Hon. Paulie Chinna (remote), Ms. Cleveland (remote), Hon. Caroline Cochrane (remote), Mr. Edjericon (remote), Hon. Julie Green (remote), Mr. Jacobson (remote), Mr. Johnson (remote), Ms. Martselos (remote), Ms. Nokleby (remote), Mr. O’Reilly (remote), Ms. Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson (remote), Mr. Rocky Simpson (remote), Hon. Shane Thompson (remote), Hon. Caroline Wawzonek (remote), Ms. Weyallon Armstrong (remote)
Statements

Pursuant to the rules, the Member for Nunakput has three minutes to respond, to vote.

Speaker: Mr. Glen Rutland

The Member for Nunakput has confirmed yes, he is in favour.

The results of the recorded vote are 17 in favour, zero opposed and zero abstentions. The motion is carried.

Carried

Tabled Document 96719(2) will be reported as ready for consideration in the formal session through the form of an appropriation bill. Thank you, Minister. Thank you to the witnesses for appearing before us.

What is the wish of committee? Member for Frame Lake.

Merci, Madam la Presidente. I move that the chair rise and report progress. Thank you.

Thank you. There is a motion on the floor to report progress. The motion is in order and nondebatable. All those in favour? All those opposed?

Carried

The motion is carried. I will now rise and report progress. Members, we will just take a short fiveminute break.

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Report of Committee of the Whole

Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Tabled Document 96719(2) Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 2, 20232024, and I would like to report progress with one motion carried, and that consideration of Tabled Document 96719(2) is concluded and that the House concur on those estimates as amended and that an appropriation bill be based thereon and introduced without delay. And, Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Do we have a seconder? Member for Inuvik Boot Lake. All those in favour? All those opposed? Any abstentions? The motion is carried.

Carried

Notices of motion for the first reading of bills. Member for Sahtu.

Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker. I'm just trying to navigate through two screens here, I'm so sorry. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to waive Rule 6.1(1) so that Bill 90

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

notices of motion for the first reading of bills. Colleagues, we'll just make a couple changes here real quick.

Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

Bill 97: An Act to Postpone Polling Day for the 2023 General Election

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I provide notice that on Wednesday, August 30th, 2023, I will move, second by the Member for Kam Lake, that Bill 97, An Act to Postpone Polling Day for the 2023 General Election be read for the first time.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Boot Lake. Notices of motion for the first reading of bills. Honourable Member for Monfwi.

Bill 98: An Act to Amend the Emergency Management Act

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I provide notice that on Wednesday, August 30th, 2023, I will move, seconded by the Member for Great Slave, Katrina Nokleby, that Bill 98, An Act to Amend the Emergency Management Act, be read for the first time.

First Reading of Bills

Bill 97: An Act to Postpone Polling Day for the 2023 General Election

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I seek unanimous consent to waive Rule 6.1(1) so that Bill 97, An Act to Postpone Polling Day for the 2023 General Election, may be read for the first time today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Boot Lake. The Member is seeking unanimous consent to waive Rule 6.1(1) to allow Bill 97 to be read for the first time today. Are there any objections?

Hearing none, the Honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, please proceed.

Thank you, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, I present to the House Bill 97, An Act to Postpone Polling Day for the 2023 General Election, be read for the first reading. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Boot Lake. Pursuant to Rule 8.2(3), Bill 97 is deemed read for the first time.

First reading of bills. Member for Monfwi.

Bill 98: An Act to Amend the Emergency Management Act

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to waive Rule 6.1(1) so that Bill 98, An Act to Amend the Emergency Management Act, may be read for the first time today.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Monfwi. The Member is seeking unanimous consent to waive Rule 6.1(1) to allow Bill 98 to be read for the first time today. Are there any objections?

Hearing none, the Honourable Member for Monfwi, please proceed.

Thank you, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, I present to the House Bill 98, An Act to Amend the Emergency Management Act for the first reading.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Monfwi. Pursuant to Rule 8.2(3), Bill 98 is deemed read for the first time.

First reading of bills. Minister responsible for Finance.

Bill 99: Supplementary Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures) No. 2, 2023-2024

Mr. Speaker, I wish to present to the House Bill 99, Supplementary Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures) No. 2, 20232024, to be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister responsible for Finance. Pursuant to Rule 8.2(3), Bill 99 is deemed read for the first time.

Second Reading of Bills

Bill 97: An Act to Postpone Polling Day for the 2023 General Election, Carried

Mr. Speaker, pursuant to Rule 8.2(2), I seek consent to proceed with the second reading of Bill 97, An Act to Postpone Polling Day for the 2023 General Election, at this time.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Boot Lake. The honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake is seeking consent to proceed with second reading of Bill 97 at this time. Are there any objections?

Seeing none, Member, you have consent; please proceed. Member for Inuvik Boot Lake.

Thank you, colleagues. Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Member for Kam Lake, that Bill 97, An Act to Postpone Polling Day for the 2023 General Election, be read for the second time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, this bill postpones polling day for the 2023 General Election. If passed, the election date will be changed from Tuesday, October 3rd, 2023, to Tuesday, November 14th, 2023. This bill has been brought forward on the recommendation of the chief electoral officer and at the direction of Members. It recognizes the current situation in the territories in that in more than half of the territory, an election could not be run safely starting next week as required by law. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Boot Lake. The motion is in order. To the principle of the bill. Member for Frame Lake.

Yes, thanks, Mr. Speaker. I appreciate the opportunity to talk to this. I think this is, you know, unprecedented times that we're in. We've talked about this earlier today even. It's not going to be possible for us to hold fair elections on September the 2nd as originally planned given that 70 percent of the population of the NWT has been evacuated. This would affect the majority of the actual ridings in the NWT as well. You know, so I think we've taken the advice of the chief electoral officer seriously. I think the only, I guess, piece of new information here is the date of November the 14th. And I guess, you know, I certainly will support this bill. I don't want the election prolonged any longer than necessary, and my public intentions of not running, I think, are known as well. So I think this is probably the least intrusive way we can do this. I am, though, concerned that the fires may continue on into October. That's what happened last year. The Scotty Creek Research Station near Fort Simpson was burnt down the middle of October last year, and so I am concerned that there may, indeed, still be some communities that are under an evacuation order even into October. Certainly, we're all hoping that that's not the case, but it could happen.

We do, as I understand, have the ability to go back and push it back further if indeed this were the case, but it would require changing not just one piece of legislation but two at that point because the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act requires that there be a first sitting of the Assembly 45 days after the end of sorry, the end of an election and it also sets when an Assembly finishes. So we may, indeed, be put in the position of having to amend this a second time if the fires prolong for much longer than anybody would ever like.

I think the longer term fixed for this is to actually change both pieces of legislation if necessary to provide for some emergency contingency provisions such that we're facing right now, and I think that's the longer term effects that would probably require some a little bit more thinking and some drafting, and I think that's something that can and should come out of whatever review is conducted at the end of all of this. But, you know, in lieu of trying to find a way forward at this point, this is the least intrusive way and I will support the bill. And I want to thank our staff and the chief electoral officer for the advice that they have all provided and input they've given us on this. Thank you. Merci, Monsieur le President.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. The motion is in order. To the principle of the bill.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Recorded Vote

Speaker: Mr. Glen Rutland

Thank you. The Member for Inuvik Boot Lake.

In favour.

Speaker: Mr. Glen Rutland

The Member for Yellowknife Centre.

Speaker: Mr. Glen Rutland

The Member for Hay River North.

Speaker: Mr. Glen Rutland

The Member for Deh Cho.

Speaker: Mr. Glen Rutland

The Member for Hay River South.