Debates of September 28, 2023 (day 163)

Date
September
28
2023
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
163
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Hon. Frederick Blake Jr., Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Mr. Edjericon, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. O’Reilly, Ms. Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Mr. Rocky Simpson, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek, Ms. Weyallon Armstrong
Topics
Statements
Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Any abstentions? The motion is carried. The committee report is deemed read.

Carried

The Standing Committee on Government Operations (Committee) has reviewed the 2021-2022 Annual Report of the Ombud.

The Ombud Act requires the Ombud to prepare an annual report. The report includes information on the number of inquiries and complaints received. It can also include recommendations. The Speaker tables the report in the Legislative Assembly. Once tabled, Committee reviews the report. As part of the review the Ombud, Ms. Colette Langlois, appeared before Committee on June 27, 2023.

The Ombud has released three annual reports since setting up her office in 2019. In that time, the Ombud has shown leadership in navigating the challenges and complexities that come with launching a first-time institution. Her dedication to the principles of fairness, competence at managing an increasing workload, and accessible communication have laid a foundation for an effective Ombud office that residents can trust. Committee commends the Ombud for her hard work and high standard of public service.

The Ombud made one recommendation in her annual report: To allow the Ombud to investigate complaints going further back in time, to April 1999.

The Ombud already made this recommendation in her first annual report, in 2019-2020. It was one of fourteen recommendations at the time. The Ombud prioritized repeating this recommendation because it impacts the public and whether she can accept their complaints. Committee also endorsed this recommendation in a previous review report.

After the Ombud submitted her annual report, the Legislative Assembly passed Bill 61: An Act to Amend the Ombud Act (Bill 61). Bill 61 was a private member’s bill sponsored by the Member for Yellowknife North. The Bill effectively implemented the Ombud’s recommendation by extending her temporal jurisdiction back to April 1999. Committee supported this change, which came into effect in July 2023. Committee appreciates the Ombud’s persistence in advocating for this change and the initiative from the Member for Yellowknife North for bringing forward this change.

In her presentation, the Ombud said she would “repackage” the outstanding recommendations from her first annual report in her next annual report, for 2022-2023. Committee welcomes this input and encourages the next Assembly to consider the recommendations. We note that the Government of the Northwest Territories (GNWT) has also “agree[d] to a review of the [Ombud Act] in the first two years of the 20th Assembly.”

During the 19th Assembly, Committee’s priority has been to increase the representation of Indigenous people at all levels of the public service.9 A key aspect to that work has been to identify barriers to achieving a representative public service. In every community Committee visited, there were residents who felt that the GNWT’s existing Affirmative Action Policy is not being followed consistently.

Committee discussed this issue with the Ombud at the public briefing. We asked what the Ombud could do to help Indigenous residents who feel unfairly treated in a GNWT hiring competition. The Ombud explained that she could not investigate whether discrimination is occurring because that work infringes on the mandate of the Human Rights Commission. But she said she can investigate other unfair hiring practices – such as whether the hiring process was followed properly, or whether enough information was provided to an applicant. The Ombud was open to a broader investigation on unfair hiring processes. She reported that hiring is the subject of 5 per cent of case files, a rate she characterized as “pretty significant”. Given these statistics and the public’s interest in the issue, Committee encourages the Ombud to investigate systemic issues in the GNWT’s hiring practices. We recognize the timing of such an investigation is complicated by the government’s plan to replace the Affirmative Action Policy with a new Indigenous Employment Policy. Nevertheless, Committee hopes the Ombud will examine unfair hiring practices sooner rather than later.

At the public review, the Ombud was concerned her office lacked capacity to fulfill its mandate. The office’s current complement of three staff, including the Ombud herself, manages between 150 and 200 case files per year. They also initiate investigations and provide public education. However, due to capacity constraints, the Ombud warned that she may need to start “triaging” which investigations to pursue. The Ombud also indicated she has “no capacity” to accept referrals from the Legislative Assembly, municipal governments, or Indigenous governments. This duty has been mandated in the Ombud Act since January 2022.

Committee believes the Ombud’s office should have the resources it needs to fulfill all aspects of its mandate. We note that the Ombud’s capacity may be further strained with the recent coming into force of Bill 61. Bill 61 expanded the list of authorities that fall within the Ombud’s mandate and allows the Ombud to investigate complaints going further back in time, to April 1999. Committee encourages the new Board of Management in the 20th Assembly to consider the Ombud’s concerns.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Reports of standing and special committees. Member for Yellowknife North.

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Member for Thebacha, that Committee Report 7119(2), Standing Committee on Government Operations report on the review of the 20212022 Annual Report of the Ombud, be received and adopted by the Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Any abstentions? The motion is carried. The committee report has been received and adopted by the Assembly.

Carried

Reports of standing and special committees. Member for Yellowknife North.

Committee Report 72-19(2): Report on the Review of the 2021-2022 Annual Report of the Languages Commission

Mr. Speaker, your Standing Committee on Government Operations is pleased to provide its report on the review of the 20212022 Annual Report of the Languages Commissioner.

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Member for Thebacha, that Committee Report 7219(2), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report of the Review of the 20212022 Annual Report of the Languages Commissioner be deemed read and printed in Hansard in its entirety. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Any abstentions? The motion is carried. The committee report is deemed read.

Carried

The Standing Committee on Government Operations (Committee) has reviewed the 2021-2022 Annual Report of the Languages Commissioner.

The Official Languages Act requires the Commissioner to prepare an annual report. The report includes information on the number of complaints filed. It can also include recommendations. The Speaker tables the report in the Legislative Assembly. Once tabled, Committee reviews the report.

As part of the review, the Languages Commissioner, Ms. Brenda Gauthier, appeared before the Committee on June 26, 2023. In the past year, the Commissioner has also engaged with Committee on two other significant projects – our statutory review of the Official Languages Act (Act) and our legislative review of Bill 63: An Act to Amend the Official Languages Act (Bill 63). Across all this work, the Languages Commissioner offered thoughtful input to enhance rights, especially for Indigenous-language speakers.

In her annual report, the Languages Commissioner offered four recommendations. Committee carefully considered each one. This report presents Committee’s response to the Languages Commissioner’s report, including two of our own recommendations to reinforce the Commissioner’s advocacy.

The Languages Commissioner recommended that the Minister Responsible for Official Languages be a standalone role within a different department. She believes some of the Minister’s legislative duties, especially the duty to promote the use of Official Languages in delivering public services, “appear[] to be lost in the provision of providing education services.”5 She noted that residents are “not getting service in all 11 of the official languages […] as required.”

Committee agrees with the importance of providing public services in each official language. In March 2023, Committee recommended that the government implement a right for each resident to receive services in the official language of their choice. The government responded by pointing out various initiatives currently underway to expand official language service delivery.

While Committee welcomes the work underway, the government should also review whether the Minister Responsible for Official Languages could more effectively carry out their mandate if they were not also the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment (ECE). Committee shares the Commissioner’s concern about language and culture getting lost within a department that also handles early learning and childcare, K-12 education, income security, and labour development. The size and scope of ECE may not allow for enough focus as the Minister Responsible for Official Languages.

One alternative is making the Minister Responsible for Official Languages a standalone role within a department that serves a broader mandate. This approach was cited by the Languages Commissioner, who suggested it be more like the Minister responsible for the Status of Women. Another option is placing the secretariats for French and Indigenous languages within a smaller, more focused department. Nunavut, which has a standalone Department of Culture and Heritage, could be a model.

Committee therefore recommends:

Recommendation 1: That the Government of the Northwest Territories study separating the Minister Responsible for Official Languages from the Department of Education, Culture and Employment in the 20th Assembly.

The Languages Commissioner recommended clarifying the Official Languages Act on whether she can make recommendations to the Minister. The Commissioner has previously said she finds her role to communicate with the Minister is “blurred.” Committee already endorsed this recommendation last year and put it forward to ECE. In response, the government said it believes the Act allows the Languages Commissioner to bring forward concerns and recommendations to the Minister.

Committee is satisfied with the government’s response. Committee encourages and supports the Languages Commissioner in making recommendations to the Minister and suggests that she copy us on communications to the Minister. Committee believes such recommendations can enhance oversight for official languages in the Northwest Territories.

Section 29(a) of the Act allows the Official Languages Board to “review the rights and status of each of the Official Languages, including their use in the administration and delivery of services and communications by government institutions.” The Languages Commissioner recommended that the Board action this part of their mandate, with a focus on the nine Indigenous official languages. Committee does not know when the last review took place – none of the annual reports on official languages going back to 2006 make any mention. It is important for the Board to exercise all aspects of its mandate.

Committee supports the Languages Commissioner’s recommendation. We note with some concern the issue of vacancies on the Official Languages Board. As of July 10, 2023, four of the eleven official languages did not appear to be represented on the Board. Any review by the Board would be more effective with full representation on the Board. We encourage the Minister to ensure all official language communities are consistently represented on the Board. The Board plays an important oversight role to ensure services are being delivered in each local Indigenous official language.

We also note the importance of having more Indigenous language speakers in the public service, especially in leadership roles and policymaking roles related to Indigenous language program - and service-delivery. Committee has expressed this concern before. We believe it is a key aspect to improving service delivery and revitalization in the Indigenous languages.

Committee therefore recommends:

Recommendation 2: That the Minister Responsible for Official Languages work with the Official Languages Board to enable the Board to carry out a review as prescribed in Section 29(a) of the Official Languages Act and report on the results. The review should evaluate the administration and delivery of public services in each official language, with a focus on the nine Indigenous official languages.

The Languages Commissioner repeated a long-standing recommendation regarding her ability to get responses. She asked for a formal process for the Legislative Assembly to respond to her recommendations.

A formal process already exists. Committee outlined the two processes that exist in last year’s review report. Committee does not see the need for any new or additional processes.

However, Committee shares the Commissioner’s frustration with the lack of action on her office’s recommendations. Languages Commissioners have put forward dozens of recommendations over the last 20 years. Previous Standing Committees have reinforced many of these recommendations with reports and motions in the House. But many recommendations have not been implemented.

Improving legislation and administration regarding official languages is not only good governance; it’s also a matter of rights. The United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples makes this clear. Article 13 commits governments to take effective measures to ensure Indigenous peoples’:

“right to revitalize, use, develop and transmit to future generations their histories, languages, oral traditions, philosophies, writing system and literatures, and to designate and retain their own names for communities, places and persons.”

When the Languages Commissioner issues a recommendation, she is often advocating for the recognition, protection, and enhancement of Indigenous official languages. By doing so, the Languages Commissioner plays a role in bringing the government closer to fulfilling the rights outlined in Article 13 of the Declaration. The government needs to be more serious when considering and implementing recommendations from the Languages Commissioner and Standing Committee.

We are encouraged by recent steps by the Minister, who put forward Bill 63. That bill was the first legislation to improve the Official Languages Act in twenty years. The government has also expressed openness to additional, more ambitious legislation to improve the Act in the 20th Assembly. Committee urges the government to pursue this work and implement more of the Languages Commissioner’s historical and current recommendations in the next Assembly. The government should consult the Languages Commissioner in this work.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Reports of standing and special committees. Member for Yellowknife North.

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Member for Thebacha, that Committee Report 7219(2), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on the Review of the 20212022 Annual Report of the Languages Commissioner be received and adopted by the Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Any abstentions? The motion is carried. The committee report has been received and adopted by the Assembly.

Carried

Reports of standing and special committees. Tabling of documents. Minister responsible for oh, sorry, getting ahead of myself here. Reports of standing and special committees. Member for Yellowknife North.

Committee Report 73-19(2): Report on the Review of the 2020-2021 and 2021-2022 Annual Reports of the Northwest Territories Human Rights Commission

Mr. Speaker, your Standing Committee on Government Operations is pleased to provide its report on the review of the 20202021 and 20212022 Annual Reports of the Northwest Territories Human Rights Commission.

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the Member for Thebacha, that Committee Report 7319(2), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on the Review of the 20202021 and 20212022 Annual Reports of the Northwest Territories Human Rights Commission be deemed read and printed in Hansard in its entirety. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Any abstentions? The motion is carried. The committee report is deemed read.

Carried

The Standing Committee on Government Operations (Committee) has reviewed the 2020-2021 and 2021-2022 Annual Reports of the Human Rights Commission.

The Human Rights Act requires the Commission to prepare an annual report. The report includes information on the numbers and grounds of complaints filed. The Speaker tables the report in the Legislative Assembly. Once tabled, Committee reviews the report.

As part of Committee’s reviews, Committee received public briefings from:

- Mr. Charles Dent, Chair of the NWT Human Rights Commission;

- Ms. Nicole MacNeil, Executive Director of the NWT Human Rights Commission; and

- Mr. Sheldon Toner, Chair of the Human Rights Adjudication Panel.

The public briefings were held on April 26, 2022, and June 26, 2023, for the 2020-2021 and 2021-2022 annual reports, respectively.

This report summarizes Committee’s reviews. Committee is recommending two legislative changes to address gaps that could give rise to human rights violations – the first, to prohibit genetic discrimination; and the second, to legislate accessible design standards. The report also makes observations about how the Human Rights Commission classifies and reports on human rights complaints.

The Human Rights Commission made one recommendation in its 2021-2022 annual report: To add genetic discrimination as a prohibited ground of discrimination in the Human Rights Act.

The Human Rights Commission previously recommended – and Committee endorsed – this change in 2019. At the time, Committee also moved a motion to amend the Human Rights Act to this effect. The government declined to make the change, citing reluctance to be the first province or territory to adopt such a ground. The government was also concerned that the change could undermine access to affordable insurance, based on a letter from a life and health insurance industry association.

Since then, the federal government has amended its human rights legislation to prohibit discrimination on the ground of genetic characteristics. This Committee in the 18th Assembly also heard that all G7 countries have laws that protect against genetic discrimination, and that residents in the Northwest Territories want similar protections so that they can access genetic testing to identify inherited health risks without fear of reprisal. Northerners should not be denied insurance coverage based on their genetic make-up.

Committee therefore recommends:

Recommendation 1: That the Government of the Northwest Territories add genetic discrimination as a prohibited ground of discrimination in the Human Rights Act.

Disability continues to be the most common reason cited in complaints of discrimination. About three in five new complaints in 2021-22 alleged this ground of discrimination. Over the past ten years, this type of discrimination has been cited almost 170 times. The volume of such complaints highlights the relevance of taking action to make the Northwest Territories more accessible and accommodating for residents with disabilities.

For years, the Human Rights Commission has called for the government to adopt an updated building code with stronger accessibility standards. The government currently relies on the National Building Code as the minimum acceptable standard – but this is not necessarily considered accessible by the broad concepts of the NWT Human Rights Act. The Commission has pointed to building standards from the Canadian Safety Association (CSA) as a preferred alternative.

Committee has previously endorsed the Commission’s advocacy in this area. In 2020, Committee recommended that the government ensure building standards meet requirements in the NWT Human Rights Act. In response, the government referenced several encouraging examples of increasing accessibility requirements for the built environment. However, the government stopped short of committing to legislate more accessible building standards for all builders across new and existing infrastructure.

Committee believes that residents, builders, and building owners need to know what is required to make a building completely accessible. Committee acknowledges this work is complex and requires a broader cultural shift towards expecting inclusivity in the built environment. The government’s role is to ensure residents have equitable access to opportunities and services, and standards and codes must be consistent with legislation.

Committee therefore recommends:

Recommendation 2: That the Government of the Northwest Territories develop building standards legislation that incorporates minimum requirements for accessible design. The legislation should require new infrastructure to adhere to Canadian Safety Association (CSA) standard B651 “Accessible Design for the Built Environment” and set a timeline for existing infrastructure to meet the standard.

There are 22 grounds protected by the Human Rights Act. In its annual report, the Human Rights Commission breaks down how many times each of the 22 grounds was cited in complaints. Committee notes that certain grounds are conceptually closely related to others. For example, “race”, “ancestry”, “place of origin”, and “ethnic origin” seem closely related. Committee is concerned that the multitude of grounds could distort our understanding of the nature of human rights complaints in the Northwest Territories – in particular, that what the general public would consider to be “racism” may be undercounted in official statistics because these complaints are classified under a ground besides “race”. Committee encourages the Commission to explore this issue further and provide more understanding through the annual report.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Reports of standing and special committees. Member for Yellowknife North.

Last one, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the Member for Thebacha, that Committee Report 7319(2), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on the Review of the 20202021 and 20212022 Annual Reports of the Northwest Territories Human Rights Commission be received and adopted by the Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Question has been called. All those in favour? Please, get those hands up, Members. Just kidding. All those opposed? Any abstentions? The motion is carried. The committee report has been received and adopted by the Assembly.

Carried

Tabling of Documents

Tabled Document 999-19(2): What We Heard – Affirmative Action Policy Review

Tabled Document 1000-19(2): Public Service Annual Report 2022/2023

Tabled Document 1001-19(2): 69th Annual Report 2022-2023 NWT Liquor Licensing Board

Tabled Document 1002-19(2): 69th Annual Report 2022-2023 NWT Liquor and Cannabis Commission

Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following four documents: What We Heard Affirmative Action Policy Review; Public Service Annual Report 2022/2023; 69th Annual Report 20222023 Northwest Territories Liquor Licensing Board; and, the 69th Annual Report 20222023 Northwest Territories Liquor and Cannabis Commission. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister. Tabling of documents. Minister responsible for Justice.

Tabled Document 1003-19(2): Department of Justice Corrections Service Annual Report 2022-2023

Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following document: Department of Justice Corrections Service Annual Report 20222023. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister. Tabling of documents. Minister responsible for Environment and Climate Change.

Tabled Document 1004-19(2): Conference of Management Authorities Species at Risk Annual Report 2022-2023

Tabled Document 1005-19(2): Northwest Territories Species at Risk Committee Annual Report 2022-2023

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following two documents: Conference of Management Authorities Species at Risk Annual Report 20222023; and, the NWT Species at Risk Annual Report 20222023. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

I now call Committee of the Whole to order. What is the wish of committee? Member for Frame Lake.

Merci, Madam la Presidente. Committee wishes to consider Tabled Document 97319(2) Capital Estimates 20242025 and Tabled Document 97419(2) Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 3, 20232024. Mahsi.

Thank you. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thank you, committee. We will take a short recess and resume with the first item.

SHORT RECESS

I now call Committee of the Whole back to order. Committee, we've agreed to consider Tabled Document 97319(2), 20242025 Capital Estimates. Does the Minister of Finance have any opening remarks?

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, I am here to present the Government of the Northwest Territories 20242025 Capital Estimates, the last capital budget of the 19th Legislative Assembly. This budget builds on our commitment to tabling a capital budget that is achievable while still addressing the priorities and needs of Northwest Territories residents.

These capital estimates propose:

$361 million in expenditures to support and continue infrastructure investment in our communities. Major highlights of this capital budget include:

$94.2 million for highways, winter roads, bridges and culverts. Key investments in this area includes funding of $26.4 million for the Frank Channel Bridge and $18.9 million for the advancement of the environmental assessments and planning work for the Mackenzie Valley Highway and Slave Geologic Province AllSeason Road;

$73 million in funding to support community governments for their infrastructure needs;.

$62.6 million for various airport and runway projects under the Disaster Mitigation Adaption Fund, Investing in Canada Infrastructure Plan and the Department of National Defence;

$55 million for planning and construction of longterm care facilities, health centres, improvements to health information systems, and biomedical equipment, including $20 million for the Health Centre in Tulita, $11.9 million for the Wellness and Recovery Centre in Yellowknife, and $10.9 million for the construction of a longterm care facility in Hay River;

$26.2 million for renewable energy projects, including $18 million for the development of the Fort Providence transmission line.

The planned capital expenditures are offset by a total of $172.2 million in support from the federal government through various infrastructure programs, including $50.5 million from the Department of National Defence, $47.2 million from the Investing in Canada Infrastructure Plan, $35.1 million from the National Trade Corridors Fund, $11.9 million from the Green and Inclusive Building Program, $7.2 million from the Disaster Mitigation and Adaptation Fund, $5.5 million from the Building Canada Plan; and $14.8 million from other partnerships.

That concludes my opening remarks, and I would be happy to answer questions that Members may have.

Thank you, Minister. Do any Members wish to make general comments before we consider the tabled document in detail? Member for Tu NedheWiilideh.

Thank you, Madam Chair. No, I just got general comments overall. But I've been here for almost a year and a half in this position, and I continue to advocate our wishes of what I've been hearing from my leadership in Lutselk'e; for example, you know, winter roads, and I've been bringing this issue forward. There was no commitment by this government. This was no commitment to undertake a study or anything like that for the need to put a road into the community of Lutselk'e, a winter road. And, you know, like, it's hard for me to sit here to go through this budget again. And, really, you know, when I advocate for projects in our communities in the last year and a half but it goes onto deaf ears. And I know that the Assembly had in 2019 to 2023, had a fouryear mandate, and no matter what I said and to advocate for the community of Fort Resolution as well and Dettah and N'dilo, it seems to go onto deaf ears. And even if I try and put stuff on the moving train that's been going over a fouryear period, it bounces off the train. I know the Premier had made commitments about trying to get, you know, my luggage onto the train but it hasn't happened. And, you know, so it's yeah, you know, I hear and see what you guys are talking about in terms of this budget. It's really tough. And, you know, I'll I'll have to keep thinking about it because last year when we did the budget in March, I didn't support it for those reasons. You know, we you know, we need infrastructure in our communities. And, again, I don't see it. But anyway, I just want to make that as a general comment. Thank you, Madam Chair.