Debates of September 29, 2023 (day 164)

Date
September
29
2023
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
164
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Hon. Frederick Blake Jr., Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Mr. Edjericon, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. O’Reilly, Ms. Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Mr. Rocky Simpson, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek, Ms. Weyallon Armstrong
Topics
Statements

Question 1594-19(2): Lutselk’e Dene First Nation Caribou Enforcement

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Tomorrow's the National Day for Truth and Reconciliation Day. It's Friday. Everybody's tired and want to go home and that kind of thing, and so I'm just hoping the Minister is feeling good today.

Mr. Speaker, after a year with no further progress on the supposed investigation into the caribou harvesting in Lutselk'e, will the Minister now recognize the wrong that was done under his watch and apologize to the community of Lutselk'e and start the reconciliation process as mandated by this government? Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Tu NedheWiilideh. Minister responsible for Environment and Climate Change.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, these incidents are still being investigated for suspected illegal harvesting in a mobile zone and wastage of edible caribou. I can tell you that I met with the chief last fall and have written to him to offer to work on reconciliation efforts once an investigation is completed. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Will the Minister provide an update to the House on the status of this investigation? We were told it's going to take six months. Here we are a year later. We still don't see anything. And we're concerned that the court already made a decision this is unlawful. And we want to know here today that if you can give us an update on where things are at. Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, like I said previously, these incidents are still being investigated for suspicion of illegal harvesting in a mobile zone and wastage of edible caribou. At this point, as it is still an open investigation I cannot speak further to this matter. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday, the Minister offered to come across this House, Minister Simpson will go across I was hoping that will happen and we would have this thing resolved.

Mr. Speaker, has an internal review taken place internally into the unconstitutional violation of the Lutselk'e Timber Bay culture camp raid? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, it seems as some people on the other side thinks being on this side's easy. I'd love to be on that other side to ask those questions and get them you know, and say, when are you going to get it resolved and how are you going to do it. And I know Members over there say well, we got to fix it. We have a process. We have investigations going on. So, Mr. Speaker, a terms of reference has been developed, and we have identified an independent party to review the or to conduct a review. And the review will be conducted once the investigation has been completed. Again, this investigation is ongoing, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister. Final supplementary. Member for Tu NedheWiilideh.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So in other words, we're not going to get no report in this at the end of this session and it's going to carry over to the next government.

Will the Minister drop this pointless investigation and own up to his mistakes that were made by offering the community of Lutselk'e a sincere apology to this House? And for the record, I just want a simple yes or no today. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, usually I'll do yes or no. But I do need to follow up with more information here. I've acknowledged that the search at Timber Bay was very difficult for some of the people at the camp who were not harvesting wildlife or who were harvesting wildlife in a respectful and lawful way. Investigations are done independently by officers, not by myself. We allow officers to do their work. The investigation into suspected illegal harvesting in the mobile zone and waste of edible caribou is ongoing. So, Mr. Speaker, once this is all said and done, I would like to be able to say here, this is what we're doing. Until that is done, Mr. Speaker, I need to follow the process. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake.