Debates of October 3, 2023 (day 165)

Date
October
3
2023
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
165
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Hon. Frederick Blake Jr., Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Mr. Edjericon, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. O’Reilly, Ms. Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Mr. Rocky Simpson, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek, Ms. Weyallon Armstrong
Topics
Statements
Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Recorded Vote

Speaker: Mr. Rutland

The Member for Hay River North. The Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. The Member for Deh Cho. The Member for Hay River South. The Member for Kam Lake. The Member for Frame Lake. The Member for Nunakput. The Member for Yellowknife North. The Member for Tu NedheWiilideh. The Member for Monfwi. The Member for Great Slave. The Member for Nahendeh. The Member for Yellowknife South. The Member for Sahtu. The Member for Range Lake. The Member for Inuvik Boot Lake. And the Member for Yellowknife Centre.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

All those opposed, please rise. All those abstaining, please rise.

The results of the recorded vote: 17 in favour, zero opposed, zero abstentions. The motion is carried. Bill 81 has had third reading.

Carried

Third reading of bills. Minister responsible for Infrastructure.

Bill 93: Practice of Engineering, Geoscience and Applied Science Technology Act, Carried

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, second by the honourable Member for Hay River North, that Bill 93, Practice of Engineering, Geoscience and Applied Science Technology Act, be read for the third time. And, Mr. Speaker, I request a recorded vote as well. Quyananni.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister. The motion is in order. To the motion. Member for Great Slave.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, and my colleagues, indulge me for a few minutes here. I did have to speak to this bill as I have been contacted by a couple constituents, as well as an association, to express their concerns.

So the Association of Technologists out of Alberta are concerned with this bill going forward and the lack of I'm not going to say this word right autonomy. That's not the right word. But the separation for the technicians themselves from the technologists under the act.

While at this point, Mr. Speaker, it is too late to and even when we were in Committee of the Whole to change this act, I did want to speak a little bit to some of the concerns that they have and maybe perhaps give them a little bit of reassurance that this is not going to be an issue.

So, first of all, Mr. Speaker, the Northwest Territories population in this area cannot support two organizations. We already struggle from a volunteer perspective and to have people employed and engaged in this type of work, the industry cannot support having two separate distinct organizations.

Within the proposal or within this law, the technicians and technologists would actually be full NAPEG members. So they would be no different within the organization than any other engineer or geoscientist, geophysicist, and they would have the same voting rights. They would be able to sit on council. They could be the president. And they would be able to act and participate in any manner that any engineer or any geoscientist would be able to do so.

Unfortunately, the concerns were raised with us at the very last minute, the 11th hour, and it was too late for us to do anything with respect to the bill. However, a lot of the concerns that have been raised by my constituents and others will be fleshed out in the regulations. And the good thing about this bill, Mr. Speaker, is that nothing can go ahead without the say so of the technicians and the technologists. So they will be involved with creating the regulations for themselves. And if they don't agree to it, then it doesn't happen. So I think that should give some reassurance to those in the territory, and I believe there's 37 of them registered currently under ASET in Alberta that, you know, they are going to have a say. This isn't a matter of engineers regulating them and directing and controlling them. Really, there are too many public safety and modernization items in this act to lose it now, things like limited licenses as well as the mandatory continuing professional development.

So I just felt that it was necessary that we speak to that, that those concerns were heard. However, at this point, the good of this bill needs to happen, and I want to say that as one of the last weeks of this sitting and, as an engineer, I'm proud to be part of having this bill be modernized and brought in. So thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Great Slave. The motion is in order. To the motion. Member for Hay River South.

Mr. Speaker oh, sorry, thank you, Mr. Speaker. Here I was wondering what the Member was doing standing. Anyways, yeah, I'm you know, I'm in support of this motion. And I guess as an engineering technologist, now I can belong to an organization actually in the Northwest Territories. And it's good to see that there's a number of other people in the same boat as well. And we can participate in the organization that with like minds and hopefully do some good. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Hay River South. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Recorded Vote

Speaker: Mr. Rutland

The Member for Inuvik Boot Lake. The Member for Yellowknife Centre. The Member for Hay River North. The Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. The Member for Deh Cho. The Member for Hay River South. The Member for Kam Lake. The Member for Frame Lake. The Member for Nunakput. The Member for Yellowknife North. The Member for Tu NedheWiilideh. The Member for Monfwi. The Member for Great Slave. The Member for Nahendeh. The Member for Yellowknife South. The Member for Sahtu. The Member for Range Lake.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

All those opposed, please rise. All those abstaining, please rise.

The results of the recorded vote: 17 in favour, zero opposed, zero abstentions. The motion is carried. Bill 93 has had third reading.

Carried

Third reading of bills. Minister responsible for Justice.

Bill 94: Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act, Carried

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, that Bill 94, Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act, be read for the third time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Recorded Vote

Speaker: Mr. Rutland

The Member for Hay River North. The Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. The Member for Deh Cho. The Member for Hay River South. The Member for Kam Lake. The Member for Frame Lake. The Member for Nunakput. The Member for Yellowknife North. The Member for Tu NedheWiilideh. The Member for Monfwi. The Member for Great Slave. The Member for Nahendeh. The Member for Yellowknife South. The Member for Sahtu. The Member for Range Lake. The Member for Inuvik Boot Lake. The Member for Yellowknife Centre.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

All those opposed, please rise. All those abstaining, please rise.

The results of the recorded vote: 17 in favour, zero opposed, zero abstentions. The motion is carried. Bill 94 has had third reading.

Carried

Orders of the Day

Speaker: Mr. Rutland

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Orders of the day for Wednesday, October 4th, 2023 at 1:30 p.m.

Prayer

Ministers’ Statements

Members’ Statements

Returns to Oral Questions

Oral Question 1578-19(2), Fire Management Policy Effect on Indigenous Culture

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Acknowledgements

Oral Questions

Written Questions

Returns to Written Questions

Replies to the Commissioner’s Address

Petitions

Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

Reports of Standing and Special Committees

Tabling of Documents

Notices of Motions

Motions

Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

First Reading of Bills

Second Reading of Bills

Bill 64, An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act, No. 3

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bill 23, An Act to Amend the Public Utilities Act

Bill 65, Builder’s Lien Act

Bill 75, Council of Women and Gender Diversity Act

Bill 80, Dental Hygienists Profession Statutes Amendment Act

Bill 84, An Act to Amend the Northwest Territories Business Development and Investment Corporation Act

Bill 85, United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples Implementation Act

Committee Report 52-19(2), Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures Report on the Review of the Rules of the Northwest Territories Legislative Assembly

Committee Report 53-19(2), Standing Committee on Economic Development and Environment Report on Supporting Northern Businesses

Committee Report 55-19(2), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on Bill 55: United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples Implementation Act

Committee Report 74-19(2), Standing Committee on Social Development Report on Bill 75: Council for Women and Gender Diversity Act

Minster’s Statement 264-19(2), Response to the NWT Chief Coroner’s Report on Suicide

Tabled Document 681-19(2), Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Committee Report 26-19(2): Report on the Child and Family Services Act – Lifting Children, Youth and Families: An All of Territory Approach to Keeping Families Together

Tabled Document 973-19(2), 2024-2025 Capital Estimates

Tabled Document 974-19(2), Supplementary Estimates Operations Expenditures, No. 3, 2023-2024

Report of Committee of the Whole

Third Reading of Bills

Bill 74, Forest Act

Bill 78, Waste Reduction and Resource Recovery Act

Bill 83, Liquor Act

Bill 92, An Act to Amend the Petroleum Products and Carbon Tax, No. 3

Orders of the Day

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. This House stands adjourned until Wednesday, October 4th, 2023, at 1:30 p.m.

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The House adjourned at 8:59 p.m.