Debates of November 2, 2022 (day 131)

Date
November
2
2022
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
131
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Mr. Edjericon, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Ms. Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Mr. Rocky Simpson, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek, Ms. Weyallon-Armstrong.
Topics
Statements

Question 1290-19(2): Marine Transportation Services

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, from the Minister's answers there, I don't think, you know, we're seeing really much change in the way MTS operates. And, you know, we're just going down the same road. We've got the same issues. And, you know, probably next year or the year after we're going to see the same thing. And I'm just hoping that, you know, something's going to change, you know, whether it's through the management or structure, something. Something's gotta give. But, Madam Speaker, with the delivery of fuel, equipment, or materials to north warning sites, Sabina and Tuk, can the Minister tell me if there were delays in those deliveries, and if so, did those delays result in further delays for community resupply? Thank you.

Speaker: DEPUTY SPEAKER

Thank you, Member. Minister of Infrastructure.

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Short answer, no. Long answer is while we have challenges this season, as I mentioned it also impacted commercial customers. The commercial deliveries did not delay community resupply. From the beginning, Madam Speaker, the season, only one vessel was dedicated to commercial activities. The majority of our marine vessels assets were focused solely on community resupply. As previously mentioned, there were five tug boats out that were activated this season. One was directly dedicated to the ISR resupply. Two were assigned to support roles for the ISR supply. One was a dual role between essential resupply and commercial lake/river activities. And one was dedicated to the customer commercial customers.

I do want to add, Madam Speaker, that last week in the House, MLA Jacobson for Nunakput had asked me if I would be willing to meet with the leaders from his communities, and I just want to say we have a meeting tomorrow night with the leaders that are here from Ulukhaktok, from Sachs Harbour, from Paulatuk, and also from Tuk. So I'm looking forward to having this meeting with the leaders in his riding. And he will also be there in attendance as well. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I guess, you know, the reason I want, you know, locations of the ships for that time period I asked for previously is that, you know, the Minister tells me that, you know, not a lot well, maybe one or two ships were delivering for private or on jobs that they bid on. But, you know, in looking at some of the information, I don't actually believe that. But, Madam Speaker, MTS was shuttling fuel from a ship, which was the Torm Lilly, anchored approximately 30 kilometres out of Tuk to storage tanks in Tuk. How many vehicles were involved in that shuttle? Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Speaker. So the tanker arrived near Tuktoyaktuk on August the 17th. Offloading commenced on August the 19th. Offloading was completed September the 14th. Weather played a significant role in the offloading which, if you do the math, that impacted 16 days. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I guess that's the issue is that, you know, we're doing other work and weather's playing a factor, and what we should be doing is resupplying our communities. But, Madam Speaker, if this contract for shuttling fuel was not in place, it would have allowed for timely resupply of those communities in the Arctic. Was that not a consideration prior to taking any work on? Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, the factors that impacted MTS operation in the past year, again, are complex and interconnected. Infrastructure, along with fuel services and MTS, will be undertaking a postseason evaluation of this year's operations to get a better understanding of where improvements can be made. And I also believe that tomorrow night's meeting with the leadership from Nunakput will also help in that as well. So I do want to add as part of this year's evaluation there will be analysis of the over the top fuel delivery to understand what worked well, what can be improved, and how it can be improved to be able to better address their concerns in the future.

We also, as part of this review, Madam Speaker, is review some of the challenges and opportunities that exist in the delivery of products from Hay River at both the current year and the past years. So we are looking into that, Madam Speaker. And I'd be quite willing to share that if we're able to. Thank you, Madam Speaker.

Thank you, Madam Speaker. Madam Speaker, my understanding is that the fuel delivery over the top may not be as completely reliable and cost effective as we believe. Why would we not move fuel through Hay River where we have control not only over the product but over the transportation as well. This would also provide business and employment opportunities in Hay River. Madam Speaker, I would like a commitment from the Minister to consider this option and conduct a cost analysis on its viability. Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Speaker. I'm going to sound like a broken record and just say that Infrastructure and MTS will be undertaking a postseason evaluation of this year's operations to gain a better understanding of where improvements can be made. As part of this year's evaluation, we'll be looking at over the top fuel delivery to understand what worked and what can be improved. Yes, thank you, Madam Speaker.

Speaker: DEPUTY SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister. Oral questions. Member for Great Slave.