Debates of February 14, 2023 (day 138)

Date
February
14
2023
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
138
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Hon. Frederick Blake Jr., Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Mr. Edjericon, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. O’Reilly, Ms. Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Mr. Rocky Simpson, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek, Ms. Weyallon Armstrong.
Topics
Statements

Question 1369-19(2): Federal Housing Funding

Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. On April the 14th, 2022, there was an article on the CBC website where it says NWT to see $60 million federal housing dollars, allocation to be determined. The Northwest Territories will receive $60 million over two years to tackle the territory's housing crisis from a federal budget directing $10.1 billion to housing. But now that funding will be allocated isn't clear yet.

Mr. Speaker, the people in my constituency and throughout the Northwest Territories were very happy to see that there was money to be allocated for it to deal with the housing crisis here in the Northwest Territories. In this document that was tabled on October 18th, 2022, it clearly shows that the housing corporation used that money to fix up public housing. And I'm not really sure how that is dealing with the housing crisis here in the Northwest Territories, Mr. Speaker. But in the budget this year as well, it shows that the money was put aside of $25 million and another 30 this year. My question is as well where did the $5 million go?

So my question to, Mr. Speaker, to the housing minister is can the Minister responsible for Housing NWT let me know how much money and her agencies have received from CIRNAC to address housing crisis here in the Northwest Territories to date? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Tu NedheWiilideh. Minister responsible for Housing NWT.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you to the Member for the question as well too, because our federal engagement has been quite successful. In the first year of this government, we were able to access the $60 million coinvestment fund. Out of that, we were able to access $25 million. The remaining had went out to stakeholders and Indigenous governments and nonprofit organizations throughout the Northwest Territories. And also, we did receive the $60 million over the two years as well too. But as the territory knows, and the Members on the other side, is that our public housing units are in very, very poor condition and it's very challenging for us to keep up with those renovations that need to be conducted. So that money is going to be set aside and be committed to be repairing those public housing units. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Yeah, thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you, Minister. Can the Minister comment on if she talked to the Indigenous leaders here in the Northwest Territories when the application was made so that they understand that this application was made from CIRNAC to put into housing to deal with the housing crisis here in the Northwest Territories; did she consult with the Indigenous governments on this application process? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Absolutely. Consulting with Indigenous groups is a priority of this portfolio and it is something that has we have made significant progress in the Northwest Territories and is set aside from the CIRNAC funding that we did have to the Members that we've also been very successful with distinctionbased funding that was set aside for Indigenous governments, that we had worked with the federal government to try to simplify that application process. We had a number of announcements where Indigenous governments were directly funded. And what I can think of on top of my head is that with the GNWT and Indigenous governments working in partnership, the Tlicho was able to receive $42 million and the Sahtu was able to receive $25 million. The Gwich'in also received $25 million. And this is not funding that is directly or involved or we're not even involved as a government as to what their plans possibly can be like and how they're going to be spending their funding. This is not territorial funding that has been brought into the territorial government. This is direct funding from the federal government to the Indigenous groups. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Can the Minister also elaborate on how much money have Housing NWT received to date from CIRNAC so that the people here in the Northwest Territories knows that the application that was made for money for housing repairs right now as it is, I go into my riding, my chiefs tell me or my leaders tell me we don't know anything about this money and they want to know where the money is. But she still hasn't answered like, I'd like to ask that question. Where did the other $5 million go? Right now in the budget here we've got 25 and 30; where did the other $5 million go? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And thank you to the Member for his question as well too. And looking at the funding that we have received as Housing NWT, right to my knowledge I'm just thinking just at the top of my head is that we received $25 million in the last government. We received an additional $25 million through the coinvestment. And then also $30 million over two years. So he can do the math there. And also I just want to speak about the participation we've had also with YKDFN who we work very closely with as well too, and we're going to be looking at working together in having a housing forum this summer. And they are actually going to be cochairing that housing forum. We've also worked with them directly as well too, and they have been quite successful in their coinvestment applications as well too where Lutselk'e had received five units, $2 million through the coinvestment. YKDFN has received $19 million for 19 units. And also a Habitat for Humanity unit was constructed in the Member's riding. This year, out of the housing rollout, Fort Resolution will be receiving six units, Lutselk'e will be receiving four, N'dilo two, and Dettah two as well.

Also I'd just like to include that over the past ten years, we've invested $18.5 million into the Member's riding. The current year delivery, we will be investing $12.1 million. And our proposed for 20232024 will be $4.1 million invested in Tu NedheWiilideh. Mahsi, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister. Final supplementary. Member for Tu NedheWiilideh.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yeah, it's nice to see that they're spending money in my riding. The thing is that I don't think the people understand that the units that's going into the community, who's paying for the operation and maintenance on those things.

Mr. Speaker, we're talking about $30 million here for this fiscal year and, you know, I disagree with the Minister in regards to her consultation with Indigenous governments. I don't think that happened because I could tell you this, I could go through my communities and they don't say anything about consultation.

Anyways, my question to the Minister, can the Minister would the Minister entertain taking that $30 million and do a contribution agreement with Indigenous governments here in the Northwest Territories to address their own housing needs and housing repairs in the communities? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And I want to comment on the consultation that housing has provided. They have been very diligent, I want to say, with the consultation throughout the Northwest Territories. And like I have said, YKDFN has been a very active participant on our Council of Leaders, and we have a very respectful relationship working with YKDFN. And also right now in Fort Resolution, they will be receiving one of our duplexes that we will be constructing for seniors throughout the Northwest Territories, and there is a consultation going on right now. I also want to include that our engagement for seniors housing is actually happening. Letters have also gone out to every Indigenous group recognizing that we do have a rollout of these units.

They were given prior notice to these units coming into their communities. And also we meet regularly with the Council of Leaders that have had a lot of engagement with our changes for our policy changes going forward. And for the Member asking for the $30 million, I've already said we are going to be investing $4.1 million into the Member's riding. This current year we've invested $12.1 million. The $30 million that we do have is to repair our public housing units and throughout this government. And the comments that have been made, our units are in very poor condition. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister. Oral questions. Member for Nunakput.