Debates of October 3, 2023 (day 165)

Date
October
3
2023
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
165
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Hon. Frederick Blake Jr., Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Mr. Edjericon, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. O’Reilly, Ms. Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Mr. Rocky Simpson, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek, Ms. Weyallon Armstrong
Topics
Statements

Committee Motion 489-19(2): Bill 74: Forest Act – Amend Paragrah 127(z.01), Defeated

Thanks, Madam Chair. I move that paragraph 127(z.01) of Bill 74 be deleted and the following substituted:

(z.01) respecting requirements for wildlife prevention and preparedness plans under subsection 45(2) and the amendment of such plans.

Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? All those abstaining? The motion is defeated.

Defeated

Clause 127, does committee agree? Member for Kam Lake.

That's Frame Lake.

Yeah, I'm kind of tired too. Thanks, Madam Chair.

So I guess there's one other matter that I think could be clarified here. And the current wording of the section we just discussed, z.01.1 of the regulation making authority really doesn't provide any specific authority for what the timelines might be for this review. And part of that is important because industry wants certainty. You want to know if I submit a plan, how long is it going to take to get it approved before I can go do my stuff. You want to know that. That's a reasonable expectation. So there's no specific authority here to set timelines. So where's that specific authority found? I wanted to ask that of our witnesses today. Thanks, Madam Chair.

For that detail, I'll turn to deputy minister Kelly. Thank you.

Thank you. Dr. Kelly.

Speaker: DR. ERIN KELLY

Thank you, Madam Chair. Specific authority is not required. There is sufficient authority in the bill to regulate time periods for these plans without this addition. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

Thanks. Can someone, then, point me to which specific section of the bill provides that authority? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Member. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. For that sort of detail, I'll turn to Ms. Bard, please.

Speaker: MS. MELISSA BARD

Thank you, Madam Chair. Section 127(z.01.1) includes the authority to make regulations respecting the provision of, which is broad wording to allow for all aspects related to the provision of wildfire prevention and preparedness plans to be regulated, including time periods.

I'll also mention that the details of the processes to engage on industry plans and how those processes work are intended for regulations and the collaborative development with the technical working group.

I'll further note that because these are industry plans, that engagement with industry is an important aspect of regulating this space which is why it's on the regulations work plan. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you. Member for Frame Lake.

Yeah, thanks, Madam Chair. So I don't want to prolong this. I just haven't had any specific identification or identification of a specific authority within here for making regulations about time periods. So I'd like to move the following motion if I may.

Go ahead, Member for Frame Lake.