Debates of May 17, 2010 (day 12)

Date
May
17
2010
Session
16th Assembly, 5th Session
Day
12
Speaker
Members Present
Mr. Abernethy, Ms. Bisaro, Mr. Bromley, Hon. Paul Delorey, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Krutko, Hon. Jackson Lafferty, Hon. Sandy Lee, Hon. Bob McLeod, Hon. Michael McLeod, Hon. Robert McLeod, Mr. Menicoche, Hon. Michael Miltenberger, Mr. Ramsay, Hon. Floyd Roland, Mr. Yakeleya
Topics
Statements
Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Ms. Lee. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

QUESTION 148-16(5): GREEN ENERGY INITIATIVES

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I’m going to follow up on my questions I asked the Minister of Environment and Natural Resources previously. I would like to ask him, of the $60 million that he and we have been referring to here, where are we at -- it’s a three-year -- in the three years and how much of that $60 million was allocated for biomass projects? Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Minister responsible for Environment and Natural Resources, Mr. Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have, I believe, about $15 million for this year. I’d have to commit to get that for the Member, and I’d be happy to provide, the breakdown of all that money across the regions and across the different areas of alternate energy including biomass, wind, geothermal, mini-hydro, and all those different areas. I’ll commit to get that for the Member. Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, $60 million is a fair amount of money and if we’re going to spend $60 million over three years, I’d like to ask the Minister if the capacity is available to this government to sort out how we’re going to spend those funds and actually see the results of them and not have this money lapse in some fashion. How are we doing on that? Thank you.

Once again, when I get that information for the Member about all of the projects that are underway, the Member will see we have done a number of briefings. But we have done a fairly good job in terms of retrofitting our buildings. The Tuk project is moving along. They are trying to fast-track the mini-hydro in Lutselk’e. There is work being done on extending the power lines. We have made fairly significant efforts with biomass, as well, in other areas, with recovering waste heat up the valley. There is a very important piece of work being done for geothermal for both in Yellowknife and in Fort Liard. I think, when you consider what we are trying to do in terms of the structural change of our system, how we generate, distribute and use energy to reduce our greenhouse gases and to reduce our carbon footprint and our reliance on diesel, I think, given the fact that we are now into year two and we have come from basically a standing stop, that we are doing a fairly good job. Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, of course we have been briefed on this thing. The whole idea of this public process here on the floor of the House is to make the public aware of what is going on. People are curious about this. We can tell them that somehow it seems more effective when it comes from the Minister who is responsible for the $60 million. How much of the $60 million has already been allocated in some fashion for the suspension of the dividends from the NWT Power Corporation for the next couple of years and the buying now the rate riders to reduce the power costs that have been announced recently? Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, the $60 million always included $9 million, which is $3 million a year, initially when we came up with the concept and the funding to do something to replace or to enhance the commercial subsidy in the small communities where the price of commercial power is prohibitive as we sorted through these long-term structural changes to how we use, distribute, generate and consume energy in the Northwest Territories. That money was always there. Now the use has been identified. It is going to result in the rate changes and rate structure changes that have been announced by Minister McLeod and will translate into those significant savings to the commercial power rates in small communities. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The time for question period has expired; however, I will allow the Member a final supplementary question. Mrs. Groenewegen.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The lowering of the commercial power rates in the communities, I can see it acting as an incentive for business. How that translates into lower prices for consumers is a piece that I don’t quite understand how the government is going to have a hand in or ensure that that happens before we get people too excited that the price of groceries is going to go down because the cost of power for the local grocery store is going to go down. How does the government see, actually, that money not just being... The business of operating with high power rates for a while and if a commercial rate reduction is going to help them, it could create some incentive to start some businesses, but how is it actually going to be seen by consumers? Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, I will give the Member a very specific example. I have had contact now for a number of months with the senior officials that run Northern Stores. They were talking to us, came to us about, initially, plastic bags but we started talking about energy costs and their efforts to lower their costs, because it is driving their costs for food right through the roof. I indicated that we were contemplating a number of significant changes and if they were carried through would see a resulting drop in their power rates from 30 percent on up. They were very clear that if that kind of arrangement was made, they would be passing some of those savings on to the consumer. I think we would be following up with those companies. We would be monitoring on the ground and look at our food basket costs and we would be encouraging and working very hard with the private sector to make sure that the consumers in the small communities realize some of that benefit. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Time for questions has expired. The honourable Member for Nunakput, Mr. Jacobson.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I seek unanimous consent to go back to item 5 on the orders of the day. Thank you.

---Unanimous consent granted

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

The honourable Member for Nunakput, Mr. Jacobson.

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery (Reversion)

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would just like to say hello to my son and welcome my son Matthew and my daughter Kirstin here in the House today. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Jacobson. The honourable Member for Range Lake, Ms. Lee.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to recognize Kathy Tsetso, CEO of Deh Cho Health and Social Services Authority, and two ladies who are with her. I will not try to name them because I will get them wrong, so welcome to the gallery.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Welcome everyone. The honourable Member for Nahendeh, Mr. Menicoche.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I, too, would like to welcome Ms. Kathy Tsetso to the gallery and welcome a constituent of mine.

Written Questions

WRITTEN QUESTION 9-16(5): HEALTH CARE FUNDING IN THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES

My questions are for the Minister of Health and Social Services.

How many people are currently registered with the NWT Health Care Plan, and how many of those people temporarily reside outside of the Northwest Territories?

WRITTEN QUESTION 10-16(5): FUNDING DISCUSSIONS WITH HEALTH CANADA

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. Item 9, returns to written questions. Item 10, replies to opening address. Item 11, petitions. Item 12, reports of standing and special committees. Item 13, reports of committees on the review of bills. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Abernethy.

Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to report to the Assembly that the Standing Committee on Social Programs has reviewed Bill 5, Apprenticeship, Trade and Occupation Certification Act. The committee wishes to report that Bill 5 is now ready for consideration in Committee of the Whole. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Tabling of Documents

TABLED DOCUMENT 44-16(5): MACKENZIE GAS PROJECT ADVERTISEMENT IN UP HERE BUSINESS, MAY 2010

TABLED DOCUMENT 45-16(5): TRANSCRIPTS OF THE GNWT SUBMISSION TO THE NATIONAL ENERGY BOARD, PARAGRAPH 18100 TO 18636

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table two documents today. First of all, a copy of the advertisement of the Mackenzie Gas Project “A Secure Energy Source,” placed by the Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment in the May 2010 issue of Up Here Business magazine.

The second is the transcript of the presentation of the Government of the Northwest Territories to the National Energy Board hearings in Inuvik, April 20th and 21st, 2010, transcript paragraphs 18110 to 18636, presentation by GNWT counsel C.W. Sanderson.

Notices of Motion

MOTION 9-16(5): P3 CANADA FUNDING SUPPORT FOR BEAR RIVER BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I give notice that, on Wednesday, May 19, 2010, I will move the following motion: now therefore I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, that this Assembly directs the Minister of Transportation to seek federal funding via the P3 Canada Fund for this important piece of infrastructure in the Northwest Territories. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

BILL 9: AN ACT TO AMEND THE TOURISM ACT

Mr. Speaker, I give notice that, on Wednesday, May 19, 2010, I will move that Bill 9, An Act to Amend the Tourism Act, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

First Reading of Bills

BILL 8: SOCIAL WORK PROFESSION ACT

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Thebacha, that Bill 8, Social Work Profession Act, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Ms. Lee. Motion is on the floor. Motion is in order.

Question.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Question is being called.

---Carried

Second Reading of Bills

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Tu Nedhe, that Bill 7, An Act to Amend the Elections and Plebiscites Act, No. 3, be read for the second time.

Mr. Speaker, this bill amends the Elections and Plebiscites Act to implement recommendations of the Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures following up on its review of the report of the Chief Electoral Officer on the administration of the 2007 General Election. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. I’ll have to declare that motion out of order. The seconder of the motion is not in the House.

---Ruled out of order

The honourable Member for Kam Lake, Mr. Ramsay.

BILL 7: AN ACT TO AMEND THE ELECTIONS AND PLEBISCITES ACT, NO. 3

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya, that Bill 7, An Act to Amend the Elections and Plebiscites Act, No. 3, be read for the second time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, this bill amends the Elections and Plebiscite Act to implement recommendations of the Standing Committee on Rules and Procedures following up on its review of the report of the Chief Electoral Officer on the administration of the 2007 General Election.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Motion is on the floor. Motion is in order. To the principle of the bill.