Debates of May 17, 2010 (day 12)

Date
May
17
2010
Session
16th Assembly, 5th Session
Day
12
Speaker
Members Present
Mr. Abernethy, Ms. Bisaro, Mr. Bromley, Hon. Paul Delorey, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Krutko, Hon. Jackson Lafferty, Hon. Sandy Lee, Hon. Bob McLeod, Hon. Michael McLeod, Hon. Robert McLeod, Mr. Menicoche, Hon. Michael Miltenberger, Mr. Ramsay, Hon. Floyd Roland, Mr. Yakeleya
Topics
Statements

Thank you, Mr. Kalgutkar. Mr. Krutko.

I’d like to ask, are there any other facilities that are falling in this category for infrastructure? Because I think that foundation problem can be pretty expensive. Are there other of these types of projects coming forward in regard to foundation problems in the Inuvik region?

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Minister Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Not that I am aware of. Thank you.

I thought he would say yes, because it is a reality of structural problems in the Inuvik region, especially to do with pilings and I think there is a report out there, an intensive report, on public facilities in the Inuvik region over the last number years. So I’m just wondering, realizing that this is one facility for half a million dollars dealing with foundations. So I’d just like to ask the Minister if he can look at the reviews and reports that have been done and come forward and identify those other facilities that have similar problems in light of the budget going forward, because I think it’s important that we do have that information when making these types of decisions. Thank you.

I’ll refer that question to Minister Michael McLeod.

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. Minister Michael McLeod.

Mr. Chairman, we have a number of projects that are listed under deferred maintenance that will involve foundation work and pile repair, including the Moose Kerr School. There’s work that’s being carried over from that facility. Also the park visitors centre in Fort McPherson. There’s a retrofit in Whati, the Grand de Tour Apartments need work and the Arctic Family Medical Clinic and nurses’ residence in Inuvik. We’d be happy to provide more information to the Members if they so wish.

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Again, I think this is something that we have to monitor closely, because with the changing climate, as we can see, this problem is going to become more apparent, and if anything it’s going to become a bigger headache than we’d hope. I think it’s not only going to be public infrastructure, it’s going to be the majority of the infrastructure by way of roads, buildings and also looking at the foundation of movement around communities. I think that we have to keep a close eye on that. So I’d just like to request that we do get updates on this going forward, realizing there is a situation that we have to monitor closely. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Minister Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That request would be captured under the commitment by Minister Michael McLeod to provide a project update on all the projects contained in this carry-over. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. Next on the list, Mr. Ramsay.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I’m just wondering on the North Slave Correctional Centre, the flooring replacement, that building is not that old. It’s coming on eight years, I suppose. Why would we be needing to replace the floor for $141,000? I guess the second question would be why couldn’t what would be a project that you think would get done in one year couldn’t get done? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Minister Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The information I have indicates this was a two-phase project. They’re into the second phase. I’d have to commit to get that detail of exactly the condition, what happened that contributed to the money being required for the flooring, but they’re into the second phase of completing the project. So I’ll commit to get that information. Thank you.

I guess if the Minister is going to get that information, I’d like to know, given the fact that that’s an institution, I mean the flooring that would go into a facility like that should be of a grade and a quality that’s going to stand the test of time and not need to be replaced six or seven years out. So maybe if the Minister could find out if there is any kind of warranty or any kind of provision for whoever put it in to help in the replacement cost of it, that would be great. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Minister Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just to point out that this project was approved in the 2009-10 capital planning process with all the attendant and accompanying documentation, but I’ll commit to provide an update to the Member or to the committee in keeping with Minister McLeod’s commitment. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Further, Mr. Ramsay? Thank you. Committee, we’re on page 14, community justice and corrections, $1.073 million.

Agreed.

I’ll just have to repeat that, $1.073 million, not previously authorized.

Agreed.

Thank you. Services to the public, $355,000, not previously authorized. Ms. Bisaro.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I do have a question in regard to these two projects. I understand from the background information that these projects are being done in partnership and consultation with Nunavut. Could I get an explanation as to why we’re doing it in partnership with Nunavut? Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Minister Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The main reason would be that when division came, we basically kept the same systems in both territories and I’m assuming any updates to the technology or the databases would be similar, so there are economies of scale possibly by cooperating and sharing those efforts. Thank you.

Thanks for the explanation. I guess my next question would then be if we are sharing the system, are we also sharing the costs? Thank you.

Yes, Mr. Chairman, and part of the delay has been the paperwork and information flowing back and forth between jurisdictions. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. We’re on page 14, services to the public, not previously authorized, $355,000.

Agreed.

Agreed. Total department, not previously authorized, $1.528 million.

Agreed.

Agreed. We’re on page 15, Education, Culture and Employment, capital investment expenditures, education and culture, not previously authorized, $23.883 million. Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Again, in regard to the capital carry-overs, the Inuvik school project, $21 million. Again, with that large amount of carry-overs, is the project on schedule and to be completed by a specific date previously scheduled? Are we looking at a delay and is it on budget?

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. Minister Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I will refer that question to Minister Michael McLeod.

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. Minister Michael McLeod.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, the Inuvik school project is probably our largest building project that we have in Public Works and Services, at $115 million. We have a carry-over of $21.66 million for this project. This is a result of an accumulation of the budget over several years. As the project was being planned, there was money being built up and now we are expending those dollars. The project is on schedule, is on time and is on budget. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister McLeod. Mr. Krutko.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just keeping the Members informed of the process and, more importantly, ensuring we keep the project on budget and control the expenditures of the government realizing we are looking at tough times going ahead. So I’m just keeping that in mind. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Krutko. More of a comment. Next on my list, Ms. Bisaro.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I note in this section that Ecole St. Joe’s portable classroom for $175,000. This is a new school project, I thought. I’m wondering why we’re spending money on portables. Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. Minister Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Funding for the modular units was approved in 2007-08 Supplementary Appropriation No. 2. Modular units were located in Ecole St. Joseph site temporarily until the renovation of the school was complete. Carry-over of funding is required to relocate the modular units to allow phase three of Ecole St. Joseph renovation...(inaudible)...project to be complete. The modular units might be removed from Ecole St. Joseph site June 2010.

If I could ask the Minister to advise where these units are going. Thank you. Where they are being moved to?

I’ll commit to get that information for committee.

We’re on page 15, Education, Culture and Employment, capital investment expenditures, education and culture, not previously authorized, $23.883 million.

Agreed.