WHEREAS the Bear River Bridge project has been put on hold pending the identification and approval of a federal funding source;
AND WHEREAS the Department of Transportation is continuously examining federal funding programs that could provide financial support for the construction of the Bear River Bridge;
AND WHEREAS the department has completed a breakdown of costs of construction of the Bear River Bridge as well as a cost-benefit and regional impact analysis of the Mackenzie Valley Highway extension that includes a bridge over the Bear River;
AND WHEREAS the federal government has demonstrated interest in supporting northern infrastructure projects and recently announced funding for project description reports for the Mackenzie Valley Highway extension;
AND WHEREAS the Bear River Bridge would increase access to the Sahtu region for the purposes of exploration, tourism and economic development;
AND WHEREAS the Bear River Bridge would help area residents adapt to climate change as the ice road season shortens and ice is weaker;
AND WHEREAS the Bear River Bridge would reduce the cost of transport into the region thus enhancing the livelihood of many Northerners and reducing the cost of living in the Sahtu which is a primary goal of the 16th Legislative Assembly;
AND WHEREAS the commitment to the Bear River Bridge project could be a legacy project of meaningful value;
NOW THEREFORE I MOVE, seconded by the honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, that this Assembly directs the Minister of Transportation to seek federal funding via the P3 Canada Fund for this important piece of infrastructure in the Northwest Territories.
There is a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. To the motion. The honourable Member for Sahtu, Mr. Yakeleya.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I’d like to make amendments to Motion 9-16(5).
I MOVE, seconded by the Member for Yellowknife Centre, that Motion 9-16(5) be amended by deleting the word “directs” from the resolution portion of the motion and insert the words “strongly urges.”
AND FURTHER, that Motion 9-16(5) be amended by deleting the words “for this important piece of infrastructure in the Northwest Territories” from the resolution portion of the motion, and inserting the words “for the construction of the Bear River Bridge”.
There is a motion on the floor. The motion is in order. To the amendment.
Question.
Question has been called.
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To the motion as amended. Mr. Yakeleya.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to just again state very clearly that this piece of infrastructure would certainly help the people in the Sahtu region in terms of the benefits that I have read out in the motion. More importantly, because of the climate change that’s happening in the Northwest Territories and the safety issue of the residents who are coming in and out of the Sahtu using the ice road, also that will help us with our economic opportunities in terms of longer periods for oil and gas exploration or any other types of exploration that could be happening in the Sahtu, and that the Department of Transportation continues working with the region and this government here to seek out various sources of funding that could see the construction of the Bear River Bridge.
I want to thank my colleagues here for giving me the opportunity to put this motion on the floor and bring attention to it as we talk about the importance of legacy projects in the Northwest Territories. We have some experience now with the Deh Cho Bridge and certainly we would use some of that valuable experience in terms of how we go forward in terms of P3 projects in the Northwest Territories.
I think people in the Sahtu, people in Norman Wells, people in Tulita certainly want to see the Bear River Bridge completed, see the…(inaudible)…have some light. All the plans were in place having this project; however, due to funding increases, we just had to put the plans on the shelf. Now it’s there, it’s ready to go. We just need the funding and the will of the Government of the Northwest Territories and the Government of Canada and certainly we can see this happen. I want to say that this is one project that we look forward to in the Sahtu. I want to thank my colleague, Mr. Hawkins, for supporting this motion. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. To the motion as amended. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. It is an honour to work with my colleague Mr. Norman Yakeleya, MLA for the Sahtu, on this motion, Mr. Speaker. It is always exciting when we can work on nation-building motions.
I believe this is a good project for the North that can help develop access and wide-ranging benefits for the whole area. Mr. Speaker, this is a significant project that could help the cost of living in the Sahtu. I think it would be one of those projects that would make the difference there. Mr. Speaker, it will also open up opportunities, as it says in the motion, to help tourism, exploration and certainly economic development that gets sidelined during those breakup and freeze-up seasons, Mr. Speaker. I think this could do well for that community.
Mr. Speaker, in short, I really like projects that will change the lives of people for the better. I think that this is an important piece of infrastructure that will go a long ways towards building that legacy infrastructure we like to refer to as the Mackenzie Valley Highway. I think as we build piece by piece, we can help connect communities to ensure that we all continue to benefit from those types of projects.
Mr. Speaker, just in closing, I just want to emphasize that it is always a pleasure to work with my colleague. I think we can do well. I would like to certainly see Cabinet support this motion. As I know, deep down in their hearts, they do support it. It is about time that we build some of those bridges on these initiatives and this will be one of them. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. To the motion as amended. The honourable Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Krutko.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I will support this motion cautiously because I also have been pushing for the Peel River Bridge. I think that we also have to look at other infrastructure in the North. I know that we have to connect our highway systems to communities and I think also realizing that we have to ensure that public infrastructure, whenever possible, should be formatted to some sort of a P3 process. I know that there is a program that is out there. The project is over $50 million. I think that this project gets that.
Again, I would just like to stipulate that I would like to also notify the government that they also should consider other projects such as the Peel River Bridge and also the bridge on the Liard. I think that we have to realize that at some point, a lot of work has been done in those areas and especially in regards to the letter I received from the former Minister of Transportation, Mr. Yakeleya, who basically stipulated that he was seriously looking at the Peel River Bridge and seeing what we can do on that one.
It is a good Minister committed to helping out. Again, show us that if there is a will, there is a way. There have been commitments made. I have submitted letters to the Premier along with letters of support from the Gwich’in Tribal Council, looking at a P3 from the Gwich’in Tribal Council in Fort McPherson. I think we also have to work with other communities on these projects. I just want to point out that this project should not be a stand-alone. It should also look at other legacy projects. Again, I will support the motion cautiously.
Thank you, Mr. Krutko. To the motion as amended. The honourable Minister of Transportation, Mr. Michael McLeod.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. First of all, I want to say I appreciate the Member’s efforts for working towards moving this project forward. I also recognize the Member for Yellowknife Centre for thinking outside of Yellowknife Centre.
Our Government of the Northwest Territories has been working quite hard to move the desire to have the highway done, the Mackenzie Valley moving forward. We certainly have been taking the planning of doing so very seriously and continue to make that a priority for us. We have now moved forward towards doing the project description reports for a number of sections on the highway. There are still a couple of agreements that we are working towards including. This is a very significant step forward to achieve the vision of developing and building a Mackenzie Valley Highway.
I want to say I am very pleased with the cooperation and involvement of all the land claim groups and of all the aboriginal businesses that have taken the time to talk to us along the proposed highway route. Of course, the Bear River is a very important portion or part of the Mackenzie Valley Highway. I don’t think anybody is going to disagree. We certainly support the arguments and the benefits noted in the resolution, and the construction and the operation of a bridge across the Bear River will bring a large variety of benefits to Tulita and other communities in the Sahtu. The construction of the bridge over the Bear River will result in earlier openings, which is always a problem for us, and a later closing of the Mackenzie Valley Winter Road. We recognize this portion of the winter road as a bottleneck and causes problems on an annual basis.
However, we also have to recognize the cost of the Bear River Bridge has been pegged at $60 million at last count and we certainly need Canada’s commitment to provide the necessary resources to build this bridge and also to build this highway. As a department and as Minister, I have personally raised this issue a number of times for funding with the federal government in meetings with Canada. The project was proposed for funding with the Canada Strategic Infrastructure Fund. It was also proposed again under the Building Canada Plan and more recently under the federal stimulus funding. Unfortunately, the significant cost to construct the bridge was a challenge to actually move this project forward.
So the department officials, DOT, will be discussing P3 projects or potential P3 projects as the Bear River Bridge motion moves forward. We will certainly take the opportunity to talk to them. We believe there’s a meeting set up fairly soon in Yellowknife with those officials and we will be meeting with them as soon as possible. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Thank you, Mr. McLeod. To the motion as amended. I will allow the mover of the motion closing comments, if you wish, Mr. Yakeleya.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I want to thank Members in the House here again to allow this important piece of infrastructure for the people of the North and the people of the Sahtu to come to the table to have some discussion to see what kind of avenues are available to us to start putting the steel together to have the Bear River Bridge up and people actually don’t have to be concerned about using eight kilometres of winter road every year in the Sahtu, especially around Tulita and Norman Wells and other communities that do use this crossing.
I want to thank the efforts of the Ministers to see where we could put this piece of infrastructure in place so we can actually see the construction of the bridge.
I also wanted to say to my other colleagues that there are other important infrastructure in the North that we have to build, as Mr. Krutko outlined in his comments in terms of the Peel River. I have a letter and my name is on it to him. I wanted to say I certainly support other Members in terms of infrastructure they want to go to their region. I know how important these types of infrastructure are to our people outside of places where they already have bridges and accesses. It’s very important to our people. Our lives actually depend on it. So thank you very much for allowing this motion to come forward.
Thank you, Mr. Yakeleya. To the motion as amended.
Question.
Question has been called. Motion is carried as amended.
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Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Deh Cho, that Bill 9, An Act to Amend the Tourism Act, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Bill 9, An Act to Amend the Tourism Act has had first reading.
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Item 19, second reading of bills. Item 20, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Tabled Document 4-16(5), Executive Summary of the Report of the Joint Review Panel for the Mackenzie Gas Project; Tabled Document 30-16(5), 2010 Review of Members’ Compensation and Benefits; Tabled Document 38-16(5), Supplementary Health Benefits – What We Heard; Bill 5, Apprenticeship, Trade and Occupations Certification Act; Committee Report 1-16(5), Report on On-Line Petitions; and Committee Report 2-16(5), Report on the Use of Computers and Hand-Held Electronic Devices in the Legislative Assembly, with Mr. Krutko in the Chair.
Thank you, I call Committee of the Whole to order. In Committee of the Whole we have before us: Tabled Document 4-16(5), Tabled Document 30-16(5), Tabled Document 38-16(5), Bill 5, Committee Report 1-16(5) and Committee Report 2-16(5). What is the wish of committee? Mrs. Groenewegen.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The committee today would like to deal with Bill 5 first and that’s it for today. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Does committee agree?
Agreed.
Okay, with that, we’ll take a short break.
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I’d like to call Committee of the Whole back to order. Prior to break, we agreed to deal with Bill 5, Apprenticeship, Trade and Occupations Certification Act. At this time, I would like to ask the Minister responsible for the bill if he will be making any opening comments. Minister of Education.
Mahsi, Mr. Chair. I am pleased to introduce Bill 5, Apprenticeship, Trade and Occupations Certification Act. The purpose of this legislation is to provide a modern statutory framework governing the apprenticeship and occupation certification programs in the Northwest Territories, and to repeal the existing Apprenticeship, Trade and Occupations Certification Act.
The Department of Education, Culture and Employment commissioned a review of the apprenticeship, trade and occupations certification system in 2006 with a view to identifying those aspects of its programs that need to be revised to promote apprenticeship and occupations certification in the Northwest Territories. The program review resulted in recommendations respecting changes to the act to strengthen the apprenticeship and occupation certification programs offered by the department.
This bill provides an updated regulatory framework from which the administration of the Apprenticeship, Trade and Occupations Certification Program in the Northwest Territories will be supported. The bill is substantively similar to the existing act, but does:
restructure and clarify substantive provisions so that the legislation is easier to use and read than the existing act;
rename the statutory officer “Supervisor” as “Director,” provide for the director to delegate powers or duties under the act, and clarify the wording respecting the director’s duties and powers;
clarify the composition of the Apprenticeship, Trades and Occupations Certification Board and change the term of board appointments from two years to a term of up to three years;
expand the regulation-making authority for occupations certification;
increase the maximum fine for failing to comply with the act from $500 to $2,000;
replace provisions dealing with local apprenticeship advisory committees with a broader provision allowing for the appointment of committees that can provide advice to the director on both apprenticeship and occupations certification matters;
replace a provision requiring parties to a proposed apprenticeship contract to provide information required by the supervisor with a regulation-making authority that would deal with requirements within the Apprenticeship or Occupations Certification Program to provide specified information when required by the director; and
repeal the existing Apprenticeship, Trade and Occupations Certification Act.
I trust that the members of the committee will agree that the proposed bill represents a significant improvement in the manner in which the apprenticeship, trade and occupations certification programs are regulated in the Northwest Territories.
I would be pleased to answer any questions the Members may have.
Thank you, Mr. Minister. At this time I would like to ask the standing committee that reviewed the bill in they have any comments. Mr. Tom Beaulieu, chair of Social Programs. Mr Beaulieu.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the Standing Committee on Social Programs conducted its public review of Bill 5 on Monday, May 17, 2010, in Yellowknife. Committee members thank the Minister and his staff for presenting the bill. Committee also heard a presentation by Mr. Manual George regarding Bill 5 and would like to thank him for taking time to present his thoughtful comments.
The bill repeals and replaces the Apprenticeship, Trade and Occupations Certificate Act. It provides a framework for certification of apprentices in designated trades and trainees in designated occupations.
Following committee’s review, a motion was carried to report Bill 5 to the Legislative Assembly as ready for consideration in Committee of the Whole. Committee did identify a minor typographical error in Bill 5 and Mr. Bromley, a member of Social Programs committee, will be introducing a motion at the appropriate time to correct the error.
This concludes committee’s opening comments on Bill 5. Individual Members may have additional questions or comments as we proceed. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. At this time, I would like to ask the Minister if he would be bringing in any witnesses. Mr. Lafferty.
Yes, Mr. Chair.
Does committee agree the Minister bring in his witnesses?
Agreed.
Sergeant-at-Arms, escort the witnesses in.
Mr. Minister, for the record, could you introduce your witnesses?
Mahsi, Mr. Chairman. I have with me to my left Mr. Dan Daniels, the deputy minister of Education, Culture and Employment; and also Blair Barbour, legislative policy advisor, to my right; and Ian Rennie to my far right, legislative counsel. Mahsi.
Thank you, Mr. Minister. Welcome, witnesses. General comments in regards to Bill 5. Mrs. Groenewegen.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I don’t sit on the Social Programs committee so I haven’t had very extensive knowledge of what this repeal and revision specifically pertains to. One thing I would like to ask of the Minister, and I guess this is a general comment but I will explain a situation related to apprenticeships that I would like to get some clarification on and then I guess the Minister can tell me if this has anything to do with the consideration that is before the House now and was before the Standing Committee on Social Programs.
Mr. Chairman, not every formal training session for the various apprenticeships is available in the Northwest Territories thus it requires people to seek some of their theory training outside of the Northwest Territories in neighbouring jurisdictions; I would suggest most often Alberta. I would like to know, I guess, if any thought had been given to streamlining the processes between Alberta’s legislation on apprenticeships and what the Northwest Territories has in place.
One area where it is different, I might suggest, would be in how the hours are calculated and accumulated and when those hours of work need to take place between the various years of apprenticeship. It is my understanding that in the Northwest Territories, the hours accumulated that go towards the certification in a trade can be accumulated, for lack of a better word, they don’t have to be at a time... Okay, if you need X number of hours between year one and year two, that is how it would be in Alberta, but in the Northwest Territories apparently you could accumulate a lot of hours that could then be allocated to various years of the apprenticeship training. That has an impact on apprentices in the Northwest Territories. Just that difference and I am sure there are other differences as well.
I guess my question to the Minister and his staff is whether or not, though any of those kinds of efficiencies or compatibilities with a neighbouring jurisdiction where a lot of NWT residents receive their certification training, whether or not any of those things were considered. Thank you, Mr. Chairman
Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Lafferty.
Mahsi, Mr. Chairman. I will refer that question to my deputy since we are getting into more detail of operations of apprenticeships. At the same time, we do have a good working relationship with the Alberta board. Dan can elaborate more on the process as well. Mahsi.
Thank you, Mr. Minister. Deputy minister, Mr. Daniels.
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The typical hours of work that someone has to have as they move through the different levels would be about 1,800 hours of work a year before they move into the next level of training. Now, of course, we have different arrangements. We work closely with other jurisdictions to coordinate the availability of training, whether it is in Alberta or other jurisdictions like Manitoba or B.C., depending on where the training might take place. But this proposed bill doesn’t really address some of those factors that the Member is asking about.
Mrs. Groenewegen.
Mr. Chairman, so that whole issue of specific number of hours, that would be worked in a year in order to advance to the next level within the apprenticeship training is not something that would be outlined in legislation. It is something that more might be in policy or regulation. Would that be correct? Thank you.
