Debates of May 28, 2020 (day 23)

Date
May
28
2020
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
23
Members Present
Hon. Frederick Blake, Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Ms. Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Lafferty, Ms. Martselos, Hon. Katrina Nokleby, Mr. Norn, Mr. O'Reilly, Ms. Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Mr. Rocky Simpson, Hon. Diane Thom, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek
Topics
Statements

Thank you, Deputy Minister. Member for Frame Lake.

Thanks, Madam Chair. I appreciate the response. It's not that I question the capability of our staff; I'm just trying to understand a little bit better. If I could get maybe a commitment out of the Minister to just prepare a little bit more information, a briefing note or something, on how that annual review takes place and what kind of information is checked and so on, I would find it quite helpful myself. If I could get a commitment from the Minister to do that? Thanks, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Member for Frame Lake. Minister, can you make that commitment?

Yes, Madam Chair. Thank you.

Are there any further questions in this area? Go ahead, Member for Thebacha.

I'm just looking at the line with the addictions treatment facilities and the 191 clients. 191 clients come back. Do you have any statistics for the success rate of those who just go back and do it all over again? Do you have any of those kind of statistics that are available?

Every family deals with addiction issues -- I don't care where we come from -- at some point in our life. One of the things that happens is that it's the aftercare. The aftercare is a major problem. You hear it from even our mental health workers in the communities, and they do an awesome job. The mental healthcare divisions in the communities and in the regional centres do an awesome job, but they can't be going around the clock either. I am just wondering about the whole thing with aftercare, because once they leave the facility, there should be a place for them to go somewhere, like, for three months after they have done their treatment time or six months. There should be that variety, because it happens in most large cities and everywhere else, they have these different homes. Aftercare is extremely important, and I don't see a line for that. It's something to think about in the future.

The other thing I want to ask you about is the residential care that is provided for the outside extreme cases. Are you thinking of repatriating some of those back to the territories? I think that was one of the questions that was asked. Is that why we have the line on the previous page for the Health and Social Services on page 177, the $45 million? I just wonder about that, because it's extremely important that a lot of these patients are brought back, if possible, to the territories.

Thank you, Member for Thebacha. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. The aftercare is crucial. I mean, we put a lot of money and effort to send our residents out for some treatment and for some help, and then, when they come back, we have programs and services that are available. You wouldn't see a line item in this "out-of-territory services;" it would come under one of our program service areas where we provide the support that way. We are also doing an RFP to be able to look at some of our patients who are outside. We have our department staff who meet with them annually to go through and see how they're doing. It's a checklist for us, so we do have that. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister. Further questions, Member for Thebacha?

I just want clarification, I guess, on the overlapping issue with page 177 and 180 when we look at the allocation to Norman Wells and to that line with $45 million, the Yellowknife line, the $45,056,000 on page 177 and the overlapping issue with residential care on repatriation of those clients. I'm just asking that question for clarification.

Thank you, Member for Thebacha. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm going to ask Deputy Minister Cooper to answer that. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister. Deputy Minister.

Speaker: MR. COOPER

Thank you, Madam Chair. There is no relationship between both of the lines, if I understand the question correctly.

Thank you, Deputy Minister. Anything further, Member for Thebacha? Thank you, Member for Thebacha. Noting the time and our agreement to stop at 6:00, what is the wish of committee?

Thank you, Madam Chair. I move that this committee defer the consideration of the estimates for the Department of Health and Social Services at this time. Marsi cho, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Norn. There is a motion on the floor to report progress. The motion is in order and non-debatable. All those in favour? Thank you, Members. All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

I will now rise and report progress.

Report of the Committee of the Whole

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Your committee has been considering Tabled Document 30-19(2), 2020-2021 Main Estimates, and we would like to report progress, and I move that the report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Do we have a seconder? Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. All those in favour? All those opposed?

---Carried

Orders of the Day

Speaker: Mr. Ball

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Orders of the day for Friday, May 29, 2020, at 10:00 a.m.:

Prayer

Ministers' Statements

Members' Statements

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Returns to Oral Questions

Acknowledgements

Oral Questions

Written Questions

Returns to Written Questions

Replies to Commissioner's Address

Petitions

Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

Reports of Standing and Special Committees

Tabling of Documents

Notices of Motion

Motions

Motion 8-19(2), Revocation of Appointment of the Honourable Member for Great Slave to the Executive Council

Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

First Reading of Bills

Second Reading of Bills

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Bill 6: An Act to Amend the Legislative Assembly and Executive Council Act

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tabled Document 30-19(2), Main Estimates 2020-2021

Report of Committee of the Whole

Third Reading of Bills

Orders of the Day

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you. This House stands adjourned until Friday, May 29, 2020, at 10:00 a.m.

---ADJOURNMENT

The House adjourned at 6:00 p.m.