Debates of October 29, 2020 (day 45)

Date
October
29
2020
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
45
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Hon. Frederick Blake Jr., Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Lafferty, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. Norn, Mr. O'Reilly, Ms. Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Mr. Rocky Simpson, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek
Topics
Statements
Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Kam Lake. Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I thought I'd have an easy answer there, and then I heard "2021," and I'm not able to make that commitment on the floor right now. As I've said, for the moment, when the SEED Policy had been retooled to accommodate and to respond to COVID-19, the market disruption clause has been waived for the current fiscal year. Mr. Speaker, I can assure the Member that we are going to be looking at that, given where we're at and if the pandemic continues to be ongoing and, in fact, continues to be fairly disruptive in the southern regions. I will certainly commit to looking at that and see if we can extend the existing change. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Can the Minister then confirm for me that no SEED applications have been denied this fiscal year due to market disruption?

It's my understanding that that is the intention. I don't have the numbers in front of me. I will make sure and get that confirmation and share it with the Member.

If the Minister does find an application within their files that has been denied because of market disruption, will the Minister have her senior management team, specifically, look at that application, re-evaluate it against their intentions for the SEED application for this fiscal year?

I can definitely commit that, if there is such an application that was denied on the basis of market disruption after such time as that announcement was made, that we will be looking at it again and ensure that it does meet the intentions as they have been stated and retooled to meet to COVID-19.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I am satisfied with the Minister's response.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you. Oral questions. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes.

Question 436-19(2): COVID-19 Cases in Inuvik

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have questions again for the Minister of Health and Social Services as to what happened this week with the mix-up with the case in Inuvik. I know that the Chief Public Health Officer had a media. She updated, and I've read the newspaper. I still have constituents asking me, "How did this happen?" With the earlier announcement that the person that was the first positive in my community of Inuvik and that they had no contacts and now we say the next case that we have was a contact of the first case, what happened in this case? Can the Minister explain? Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Minister of Health and Social Services.

Yes, thank you. I just start by saying that the CPHO is an independent office within Health and Social Services, so I don't have any information that hasn't already been made public about what happened this week. There was a communications breakdown that led to the announcement of a positive test when it wasn't positive. It was presumptive and has since been confirmed as positive. My understanding is that the first case news release talked about contacts for the travel case, and the second case news release was a household contact of that original travel case. Thank you.

Thank you to the Minister. The thing that came about, I had a lot of calls. I had some discussions with the Minister as well that day. It's just the way that the first announcement came out with the first case. It just didn't add up, so a lot of Members were very, very concerned that we weren't getting the truth out of the first case. That's what my question was: knowing that there was a household and a family isolated, why did it not come out that they were not alone, or they were with other family members?

Yes. I appreciate that there's a lot of anxiety and fear about the prospect of COVID being diagnosed in our communities, and Inuvik is no different in this case. People who are tested for COVID are entitled to their privacy. Identifying information and additional information is very tightly controlled by the CPHO. There is no reason that she would feel obliged to enumerate who else lives in the house with the infected person unless that person was also infected. When that person did test as infected, it turned out that they did live in the same house. There's no obligation to provide a complete breakdown of the family's circumstances for each positive test.

I guess what I'm saying is: when we had the first case, it was a family that arrived back, and it said one member has tested positive. The rest are at home isolating. I think that was the concern after hearing what happened in Yellowknife. My next question is: is the department looking at their policies on travellers coming into the territory and isolating at home with other family members? That way, family members know exactly what they need to be doing at home, and what they should and shouldn't be doing. That way, the public also can feel a little bit of security that they're not out in the public?

Yes. I'm well aware that the Member is a nurse and very knowledgeable as a result about how infectious COVID is. People are given advice about isolating at home, about having separate bathrooms, separate bedrooms, about good cleaning practices, good hand hygiene, wearing masks, and so on. There is nobody there checking up on them to make sure that all of that is being done. This is something that happens in the privacy of a person's home. We do recognize that there has been some household spread in this particular case. I am really interested to see what the CPHO comes up with in her revised orders to address this issue. Maybe it turns out that it's not possible to isolate at home. People will have to isolate in regional hubs because the infectiousness risk is so great that it doesn't make sense if people are all in the same house, especially if the house is limited in size and has a lot of people in it.

Written Questions

Marsi cho, Mr. Speaker. This goes back to a previous Member's statement I had on procurement. My question is for the Minister of Industry, Tourism and Investment on the issue of procurement from Indigenous-owned and -operated businesses:

For the 2019-2020 fiscal year, what percentage of capital expenditures were spent with Indigenous-owned and -operated businesses;

What steps has the Government of the Northwest Territories taken to identify and remove barriers for Indigenous businesses to participate in the modern economy; and

What incentives or programs does the Government of the Northwest Territories have in place to provide for the purchase of goods and services from Indigenous-owned and -operated businesses?

Marsi cho, Mr. Speaker.

Tabling of Documents

Tabled Document 208-19(2): Aurora College Transformation Implementation Plan

Tabled Document 209-19(2): Government of the Northwest Territories 2019-2020 Annual Report on Official Languages

Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following two documents: "Aurora College Transformation Implementation Plan, October 2020" and "Government of the Northwest Territories 2019-2020 Annual Report on Official Languages." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister. Tabling of documents. Minister of Municipal and Community Affairs.

Tabled Document 210-19(2): Follow-up Letter for Oral Question 356-19(2): 911 Actual Operation Costs

Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following document: "Follow-up Letter for Oral Question 356-19(2), 911 Actual Operation Costs." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister. Tabling of documents. Member for Yellowknife North.

Tabled Document 211-19(2): Terms of Reference - Special Committee on Reconciliation and Indigenous Affairs

Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the "Terms of Reference - Special Committee on Reconciliation and Indigenous Affairs." Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Yellowknife North. Tabling of documents. Member for Nunakput.

Tabled Document 212-19(2): CBC News article dated March 2, 2020 titled "N.W.T. MLA says power corp wrong to throttle power in winter for people who can't pay"

Tabled Document 213-19(2): Cabin Radio article dated March 18, 2020 titled "NWT Power Corporation to stop using limiters during pandemic"

Tabled Document 214-19(2): Northwest Territories Power Corporation News Release dated October 21, 2020 titled "NTPC To Resume Collection Activities

Tabled Document 215-19(2): Cabin Radio article dated October 22, 2020 titled "NWT Power Corporation to resume collections and use of limiters"

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to table the four press releases: "CBC News article dated March 2, 2020 titled 'N.W.T. MLA says power corp wrong to throttle power in winter for people who can't pay;'" "Cabin Radio article dated March 18, 2020 titled 'NWT Power Corporation to stop using limiters during pandemic;'" "Northwest Territories Power Corporation News Release dated October 21, 2020 titled "NTPC To Resume Collection Activities;" and "Cabin Radio article dated October 22, 2020 titled 'NWT Power Corporation to resume collections and use of limiters.'" Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Notices of Motion

Motion 21-19(2): Establishment of a Special Committee on Reconciliation and Indigenous Affairs

Mr. Speaker, I give notice that, on Monday, November 2, 2020, I will move the following motion: Now therefore I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Hay River North, that, pursuant to rule 92(1), the Legislative Assembly hereby establish a Special Committee on Reconciliation and Indigenous Affairs. And further, that the following Members be named to the special committee: Mrs. Lesa Semmler, the Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes; Mr. Steve Norn, the Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh; Mr. Rylund Johnson, the Member for Yellowknife North; the Honourable R.J. Simpson, Member for Hay River North; and the Honourable Caroline Wawzonek, the Member for Yellowknife South. And furthermore, that the Minister of Executive and Indigenous Affairs is an ex-officio non-voting Member of that committee. And furthermore, that the Special Committee on Reconciliation and Indigenous Affairs be established by the terms of reference identified as Tabled Document 211-19(2). And furthermore, that the Special Committee on Reconciliation and Indigenous Affairs table its final report no later than the first day of the final sitting of the 19th Legislative Assembly. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

Bill 17: An Act to Amend the Corrections Act

Mr. Speaker, I give notice that, on Monday, November 2, 2020, I will move that Bill 17, An Act to Amend the Corrections Act, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister. Notices of motion for first reading of bills. Minister of Justice.

Bill 18: An Act to Amend the Legal Profession Act

Mr. Speaker, I give notice that, on Monday, November 2, 2020, I will move that Bill 18, An Act to Amend the Legal Profession Act, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister. Notices of motion for first reading of bills. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment.

Bill 19: An Act to Amend the Student Financial Assistance Act

Mr. Speaker, I give notice that, on Monday, November 2, 2020, I believe move that Bill 19, An Act to Amend the Student Financial Assistance Act, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

First Reading of Bills

Bill 15: Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act, 2020

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes, that Bill 15, Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act, 2020, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.