Debates of October 30, 2020 (day 46)

Date
October
30
2020
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
46
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Hon. Frederick Blake Jr., Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Lafferty, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. Norn, Mr. O'Reilly, Ms. Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Mr. Rocky Simpson, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek
Topics
Statements

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll have Mr. Martin respond. Thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Martin.

Speaker: MR. MARTIN

Thank you, Madam Chair. The aim of the corporation is to set aside a notional amount of $15 million a year, as was noted previously. For this year that we have tabled, for this review, we are below that amount, and currently, we're utilizing some additional dollars to support leveraging the other partners. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Martin. Member for Yellowknife North.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I know the GNWT everywhere and all of our departments, and all of our arms-length ones have a massive infrastructure deficit. However, the GNWT has a financial responsibility policy that sets out how much can go into capital and covered by O and M, part of that is that the amortization has to be spent and that's linked to not letting our deferred maintenance get too out of control. When I see that we have a $40-million deficit in bringing our current stock up to where it should be, it seems like those numbers have got out of sync. Is the Housing Corporation required to follow the GNWT financial responsibility policy?

Thank you, Member. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'll revert the question back to Mr. Martin. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Martin.

Speaker: MR. MARTIN

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes. The Housing Corporation, given its current corporate structure, we have an ability to manage within our overall funding sources. Our funding sources, as was mentioned previously, we have federal funding sources, we have our own source revenues, as well as GNWT resources. Those resources are allocated out between a combination of capital investment as well as O and M investment. We go through an annual business planning process each year, and we look at where those investment priorities, that mix of investment priorities, is best allocated. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Martin. Anything else? Member for Yellowknife North.

Thank you, Madam Chair. This is the problem. I don't know to what level of oversight I should have of the Housing Corporation's budget, given it is arms-length. I have a lot of concerns with the Housing Corporation's budget and the way it does capital. Is the Minister willing to reach out to the Department of Finance and see what applying our GNWT financial responsibility policy to the Housing Corporation would look like, where the differences are? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Member. Minister.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister. All right. Are there any further comments or questions to this item? Seeing none, I remind the committee that the estimates for the Northwest Territories are included in the capital estimates as an information item only. The committee will not be voting on the activity total. Thank you, Members. Please return now to the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation summary found on page 64. Are there any further questions or comments? Seeing none, does committee agree that the consideration of the Northwest Territories Housing Corporation is complete? Mr. Norn.

Committee Motion 46-19(2): Tabled Document 181-19(2): Capital Estimates 2021-2022 - Northwest Territories Housing Corporation - Deferral of Corporation (page 64), Carried

Marsi cho, Madam Chair. I move that this committee defer further consideration of the estimates for the NWT Housing Corporation at this time. Marsi cho, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Norn. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Consideration of the departmental summary has been deferred. Thank you, Minister and to your witnesses. Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses out of the Chamber. Noting the clock, committee members, I will now rise and report progress.

Report of the Committee of the Whole

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Your committee has been considering Tabled Document 181-19(2), Capital Estimates 2021-2022, and would like to report progress, with two motions carried. Mr. Speaker, I move that report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Do we have a seconder? Member for Nunakput. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Orders of the Day

Speaker: Mr. Ball

Orders of the day for Monday, November 2, 2020, at 1:30 p.m.:

Prayer

Ministers' Statements

Members' Statements

Returns to Oral Questions

- Question 358-19(2), Long-Term Care Facility

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Acknowledgements

Oral Questions

Written Questions

Returns to Written Questions

Replies to Commissioner's Address

Petitions

Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

Reports of Standing and Special Committees

Tabling of Documents

Notices of Motion

Motions

- Motion 21-19(2), Establishment of a Special Committee on Reconciliation and Indigenous Affairs

Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

First Reading of Bills

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Bill 17, An Act to Amend the Corrections Act

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Bill 18, An Act to Amend the Legal Profession Act

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Bill 19, An Act to Amend the Student Financial Assistance Act

Second Reading of Bills

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Bill 16, An Act to Amend the Income Tax Act

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

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Bill 15, Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act, 2020

- Committee Report 4-19(2), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on the Review of the 2018-2019 Northwest Territories Human Rights Commission Annual Report

- Committee Report 5-19(2), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on the Review of the 2018-2019 Annual Report of the Information and Privacy Commissioner of the Northwest Territories

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Minister's Statement 77-19(2), National Housing Co‐Investment Fund

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Tabled Document 165-19(2), Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Committee Report 1-19(2): Report on Long-Term Post-Pandemic Recovery - Recommendations to the GNWT

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Tabled Document 166-19(2), Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Committee Report 2-19(2): Report on Long-Term Post-Pandemic Recovery - Recommendations to the GNWT

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Tabled Document 167-19(2), Government of the Northwest Territories Response to Committee Report 3-19(2): Report on Long-Term Post-Pandemic Recovery - Recommendations to the GNWT

- Tabled Document 181-19(2), Capital Estimates 2021-2022

Report of Committee of the Whole

Third Reading of Bills

Orders of the Day

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Colleagues, this House stands adjourned until Monday, November 2, 2020, at 1:30 p.m.

---ADJOURNMENT

The House adjourned at 2:31 p.m.