Debates of June 2, 2021 (day 78)

Date
June
2
2021
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
78
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Hon. Frederick Blake Jr., Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Lafferty, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. O'Reilly, Ms. Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek
Topics
Statements

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, this is another part of, I think, a good news story with the movement on the Great Slave Lake for fishery revitalization because, yes, my understanding is that Arcand is in fact put their materials forward with a lot of local contractors all working together. So perhaps when I provide the update broadly speaking about the Great Slave Lake fishery, that I will see what we can provide on this as well. Again, I think this is actually a good news story of a company that's come together and really looked at how to use northern suppliers in their bid. Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair. With respect to the remote collection stations, are they going to be in communities, closer to communities, or will they be looking at some of the older existing stations they have around the lake, revitalizing those? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, the choices of where the collection stations are to go is a decision that is I think really looking to the fishers themselves to drive that decisionmaking. And that's where there is now a working group that is being set up and has begun to meet for those who are fishers, again all around the lake. So that exactly on questions like that, that consultation with them, that they are the ones that are actually driving where those sites go. You know, keeping in mind, of course, the role of DFO in that and the role of individual communities that may have may or may not be fishers or fisher, have many fishers themselves. So, you know, I need to take a pause there and go back but, again, I know that the working group's been meeting and that they are meeting specifically to have these kinds of conversations. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, I'm pleased to see that this project's finally going to move ahead and hopefully it will do something for the fishing industry and, you know, hopefully we get some sales not only in the territories but in southern Canada and outside of Canada as well. Thank you, Madam Chair. No questions.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I am also got to throw in my hat to the fishery collection station conversation. One of those areas being looked is the is in my riding. It's at the end of the Robertson Road, I believe, at the Con Mine area. I don't know that I have a lot of questions around this but while I have the Minister here, I'm just going to advocate for my constituents, that there is concern about increased traffic in that area. Currently, we are trying to determine at times whose responsibility is it for that area, given that it is still a commercial mine lease is my understanding. And so I often find people between the city and Ministers pointing fingers at whose responsibility is what so I have a lot of concern here about how the determination of that location is going to go. I understand leading it around in different parts with communities and having a different conversation, but I think the conversation with the City of Yellowknife and therefore, by extension, the community of Great Slave is different. And I'm concerned that, to hear that the Members  or sorry, that the city is being itself engaged but I'm not sure my constituents themselves in that area are being engaged. And I just want to ensure that they have a chance to express their feelings about that as well. And then I also want to know who's going to fix the docks that currently needs work but that might be a different discussion. Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Yes, Madam Chair, the information I'm having here, I'm trying to pull up ITI materials in addition to Finance materials as I'm here. But that did  again, there have been quite a number of conversations with the City of Yellowknife as well as the Department of Lands to determine if some of those exact questions of who owns these sites, what are they zoned for, and what can they be best used for. As far as any discussions that may have been public consultations, I don't have that information here. I will confirm and get back to the Member recognizing that her riding is indeed also one that sits on Great Slave Lake. So  and as for fixing up dock, I don't have that information on this infrastructure budget but will make a note to consider that as an outstanding question to respond to. Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Without spoiling the surprise of tomorrow's statements, I did want to point out that the dock does have some immediate concerns, so, and again, while I've got the Minister here and recognizing it's not part of this budget item, I do want to impress that there is potential for environmental issues with the dock's degradation, etc. So before we go about creating a spot, you know, we maybe need to look at some interim issues there. So, again, I'm just taking a moment but I probably shouldn't. So, thank you, Madam Chair.

Not today.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 20212022. Department of Industry, Tourism and Investment, capital investment expenditures, economic diversification and business support, not previously authorized, $2,494,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 20212022. Department of Infrastructure, capital investment expenditures, asset management, not previously authorized, $32,671,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1. Member for Yellowknife North.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I know there has been a couple of delays at getting the South Mackenzie Correctional Centre in Hay River operating, and I'm excited for its opening using the therapeutic model. And I know there's even some concerns about the perimeter fence, which I see it here, for $135,000 meeting the security requirements. But I guess my question is when do we expect that facility to be open?

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'd suggest that go to the Minister of Justice, please.

Thank you. And, of course, the facility itself is open. SMCC has been there have been inmates there throughout this process. But it would be sometime in the summer, we expect, the therapeutic model to roll out. Thank you.

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I'm wondering if the Minister can elaborate on the ventilation and air conditioning retrofit from North Slave. Thank you.

I suggest that go to, again, Minister of Justice, please.

Thank you. I will let the Minister of Finance find her notes on there, because I still have to find mine as well. So perhaps if the committee can just give us a minute, we can get an answer for you. Thanks.

Speaker: MR. COURTOREILLE

Thank you, Madam Chair. This project is proposing a carryover, $294,000. The project is just in final substantial completion phase. I think they're just correcting some seasonal deficiencies. It's expected to be complete in June of 2021.

Well, yeah, we're in June of 2021 so that's good. I'm wondering specifically if this addresses any of the concerns from the smudging and healing room that is in the North Slave Correctional Centre. Thank you.

I'm not surprised that that's the question at all. I don't have the specifics here. I'm not sure if Mr. Courtoreille has it. If he doesn't, we'll commit to confirming if that is in fact the project that I'm thinking of. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. COURTOREILLE

Thank you, Madam Chair. We'd have to go back to the department for that detail.

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I think it's a very important room in the North Slave Correctional Centre, and I'd appreciate hopefully good news that that's what it is addressing. Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair. A question I guess with respect to the fence as well. I guess driving around there, I see that people could crawl under it. So I'm just wondering if that's what that $135,000 was, is to fix that  those issues up.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, I haven't driven around it lately. I don't know if that's specifically what this is. I mean, the information I have is that this is  these were some seasonal deficiencies that weren't complete last year and that they are expected to be completed now. So if it's anything other than that or if there's something further, Madam Chair, we'll  I realize the Member's specific interest in this project in his community so we'll look into that and get back to him. Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair. The other item is the program building replacement. Is that the building that's kind of sitting out on its own? And when would that replacement happen? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I believe that it is. I can say that they are expecting the completion of that project, again, this spring.

Thank you, Madam Chair. And the heavyduty truck replacement, what's that for? Just to replace something that's aged? Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I'm sure happy to have a chance to speak to vehicle replacements again. It was put to me that, in fact, there is actually quite a wide shortage of vehicles across  well, across a number of places in North America, if not around the world, because of the shortage of semiconductor chips for one and other supply chain shortages that arose earlier in the pandemic.

So it is apparently not particularly surprising that there are some challenges in getting particularly the more specialized vehicles that might have programspecific requirements for them.

So I can, again, say that in this particular case, we are expecting that this truck will be arriving this spring. Thank you.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 20212022. Department of Justice, capital investment expenditures, corrections, not previously authorized, $766,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 20212022. Department of Lands, capital investment expenditures, operations, not previously authorized, $84,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thanks, Madam Chair. I move that consideration of Tabled Document 41119(2), Supplementary Estimates (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 20212022, be concluded and that Tabled Document 41119(2) be reported and recommended as ready for further consideration in a formal session through the form of an appropriation bill. Thanks, Madam Chair.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Speaker: THE SPEAKER

Question has been called. All those in favour? Opposed? Abstentions? The motion is carried.

Carried.

Tabled Document 41119(2) will be reported as ready for consideration in a formal session through the form of an appropriation bill. Thank you, Minister, and thank you to the witnesses for appearing before us.

SergeantatArms, please, escort the witness from the Chamber. Member for Frame Lake.

Thanks, Madam Chair. I move that the chair rise and report progress.

Carried

Report of Committee of the Whole

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

May I please have the report of the Committee as a Whole, please. Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Do we have a seconder? Member for Inuvik Boot Lake. Motion is carried.

Carried

Third reading of bills. Mr. Clerk, orders of the day.

Orders of the Day

Speaker: MR. RUTLAND

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Orders of the day for Thursday, June 3, 2021 at 1:30 p.m.:

Prayer

Ministers Statements

Members' Statements

Returns to Oral Questions

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Acknowledgements

Oral Questions

Written Questions

Returns to Written Questions

Replies to the Commissioner's Address

Petitions

Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

Reports of Standing and Special Committees

Tabling of Documents

Notices of Motion

Motions

Motion 35-19(2), Establishment of Electoral Boundaries Commission

Motion 36-19(2), Guidelines for Northwest Territories Electoral Boundaries Commission, 2021

Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

First Reading of Bills

Bill 33, National Indigenous Peoples Day Act

Second Reading of Bills

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bill 25, An Act to Amend the Education Act

Committee Report 1519(2), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on the Review of the Auditor General's 2020 Audit of Early Childhood to Grade 12 Education in the Northwest Territories

Committee Report 1619(2), Standing Committee on Social Development Report on Housing Phase One: Needs for NWT Homeowners and Private Landlords

Minister's Statement 16119(2), Emerging Stronger: COVID-19 Social and Economic Recovery Plan

Tabled Document 41219(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No.1, 2021-2022

Tabled Document 41319(2), Emerging Stronger: Planning the NWT's Social and Economic Recovery Together

Report of Committee of the Whole

Third Reading of Bills

Orders of the Day

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. This House stands adjourned until Thursday, June 3rd, 2021, at 1:30 p.m.

Adjournment

The House adjourned at 5:52 p.m.