Debates of June 3, 2021 (day 79)

Date
June
3
2021
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
79
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Hon. Frederick Blake Jr., Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Lafferty, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. O'Reilly, Ms. Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek
Topics
Statements

Thank you. And I'll take that as a comment.

Any further questions comments? Member for Thebacha.

One comment. There's got to be some compassion here, okay. Compassion, it's our own people. These are people that are  don't live in big houses that are worth $2 million and stuff, okay. And I stress to the government that we on this side know what compassion is, and we got to make sure the other side also knows that too, okay. And I don't want any cold answers when you're communicating to poor people and whatever, compassion plays a big part. And I've said that even at the beginning, that we got to listen to the people, okay. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Member for Thebacha. Do you have any comment, Minister of Finance?

Madam Chair, the Minister of Housing has been very clear that she is committed to getting housing dealt with ready, sorted, built, rebuilt, and when I'm focusing on the disaster assistance policy and the disaster assistance committee, it is not for lack of recognizing that we need to work outside that stringent process. I want people to know that there is a process, that it is in existence, that the committee is stood up, and you know, and will undertake its work and take it seriously. But, again, that's where I've made the statement today that we're going to be working together to accelerate something outside or in addition to that process. The challenge that I have, and I know it will produce frustration, is I don't have a final answer. What I know is that we need to move this five million out quickly. I know we need to move the five million into the hands of people who have been displaced, who may already be back from the evacuation centre. And, you know, we want to work within the processes we have as much as we can because they are there. But I want to send that message that I recognize that in the coming days, a method needs to be in place so that this five million can start to move out even if it's in some sort of advance ahead of the full rollout of the process. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Member for Thebacha, did you have any further questions?

I don't have any other comments. I hope that people understand compassion, though.

Thank you. So we're going to move on, and I'm going to call this page now.

I don't want to use another ten minutes. As long as you're not going to speak I mean for ten minutes. Okay. Well, I will let you go, then. Member for Frame Lake.

Thanks very much, Madam Chair. Yeah, I just want to get clear assurance that our assistance approach is not being driven by the federal reimbursement. We need to put people first. And, quite frankly, I can't speak for everybody on this side of the House, we don't really  or I don't care if we actually get all the money back out of the federal government. The principle that needs to be driving our assistance approach is to help people get back up on their feet and get people back into their homes by winter. The reimbursement stuff can come afterwards. That's not what should be driving the way that we provide assistance to people. And this form and that policy is what is going to hamstring us. That's what this is designed around and you guys need to fix this now. Thanks, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, we are not driven by getting money from the federal government. It will certainly be nice to get money back from the federal government. They have a disaster relief fund. It is set up to provide supports for all provinces and territories. Our disaster assistance policy is not that different from the others for this exact purpose. But we aren't before the House right now with this, making the commitments that I've made today, in the hopes that I'll get money back. We're here because we want to make sure that we're getting this money out as quickly as we can. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Minister. And thank you, Member. All right.

Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 20212022, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, public safety, not previously authorized, $4,952,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary Estimate (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 20212022, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, school of community government, not previously authorized, negative $10,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 20212022, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, Sports, recreation and youth, not previously authorized, negative $165,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 20212022, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, total department, not previously authorized, $4,644,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thank you, committee. Do you agree that you have concluded consideration of Tabled Document 41219(2) Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No.1, 20212022?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thank you. Oh, sorry. Member for Frame Lake.

Committee Motion 133-19(2): Concurrence Motion – Tabled Document 412-19(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022, Carried

Thanks, Madam Chair. I move that consideration of Tabled Document 41219(2), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 20212022, be concluded; and, that Tabled Document 41219(2) be reported and recommended as amended and ready for further consideration in formal session through the form of an appropriation bill. Thank you, Madam Chair.

Thank you. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Question been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Abstentions? Motion is carried.

Carried

Tabled Document 41219(2) will be reported as ready for consideration in a formal session through the form of an appropriation bill.

Thank you, Ministers, and thank you to the witnesses for appearing before us. SergeantAtArms, please escort the witnesses from the chamber.

Member for Frame Lake, I just want to apologize. I didn't say not to talk; I just meant don't use up the whole ten minutes, you already had one round. Thanks. Okay. So, Member for Frame Lake.

Thanks, Madam Chair. Sorry, do we want to try to squeeze in the standing committee report? Okay, all right. Just checking.

Madam Chair, I move that the chair rise and report progress.

There's a motion on the floor to report progress. The motion is in order nondebatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion is carried.

Carried

I will now rise and report progress.

Report of Committee of the Whole

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Bill 25, Tabled Document 41219(2), Committee Report 15-19(2) and Committee Report 16-19(2)  or sorry, three is it? Yes, three, sorry. Tabled Document 41219(3), and would like to report progress and that Bill 25 is ready for third reading and that consideration of Tabled Document 41219(2) is concluded and the House concur on those estimates as amended and that an appropriation bill to be based thereon introduced without delay.

Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. Do we have a seconder? Member for Frame Lake. All those in favour? All those opposed? Any abstentions? Motion is carried.

Carried

Third Reading of Bills

Bill 34: Supplementary Appropriation Act, (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 2021-2022

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, that Bill 34, Supplementary Appropriations Act, (Infrastructure Expenditures), No. 1, 20212022, be read for the third time. Mr. Speaker, I request a recorded vote.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister. Motion is in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Recorded Vote

Speaker: Mr. Rutland

The Member for Yellowknife South, the Member for Range Lake, the Member for Yellowknife Centre, the Member for Hay River South, the Member for Thebacha, the Member for Nahendeh, the Member for Sahtu, the Member for Inuvik Boot Lake, the Member for Hay River north, the Member for Great Slave, the Member for Kam Lake, the Member for Frame Lake, the Member for Yellowknife North, and the Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

All those opposed, please rise. All those abstaining, please rise. Thank you. The results of the recorded vote, 14 in favour, zero nos, zero abstentions. The motion is carried.

Carried

Orders of the Day

Speaker: Mr. Rutland

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Orders of the day for Friday, June 4th, 10:00 a.m.:

Prayer

Ministers Statements

Members' Statements

Returns to Oral Questions

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Acknowledgements

Oral Questions

Written Questions

Returns to Written Questions

Replies to the Commissioner's Address

Petitions

Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

Reports of Standing and Special Committees

Tabling of Documents

Notices of Motion

Motions

Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

First Reading of Bills

Second Reading of Bills

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Report of Committee of the Whole

Third Reading of Bills

Orders of the Day

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Madam Clerk. This House stands adjourned until Friday, June 4th, 2021, at 10:00 a.m.

Adjournment

The House adjourned at 6:52 p.m.