Debates of June 4, 2021 (day 80)

Date
June
4
2021
Session
19th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
80
Members Present
Hon. Diane Archie, Hon. Frederick Blake Jr., Mr. Bonnetrouge, Hon. Paulie Chinna, Ms. Cleveland, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Hon. Julie Green, Mr. Jacobson, Mr. Johnson, Mr. Lafferty, Ms. Martselos, Ms. Nokleby, Mr. O'Reilly, Ms. Semmler, Hon. R.J. Simpson, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek
Topics
Statements

Committee Motion 141-19(2): Committee Report 16-19(2):  Standing Committee on Social Development Report on Housing Phase One:  Needs for NWT Homeowners and Private Landlords – Policy and Program Barriers, Carried

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that this committee recommends that the Government of the Northwest Territories develop a policy and program barrier document and support Indigenous groups to overcome barriers to qualify for federal financing programs like ministerial loan guarantees. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Member. The motion is in order. To the motion?

Speaker: SOME HON MEMBERS

Question.

Question's been called. All those in favour? Opposed? Abstentions? Motion carried.

Carried

Member for Kam Lake.

Committee Motion 142-19(2): Committee Report 16-19(2):  Standing Committee on Social Development Report on Housing Phase One:  Needs for NWT Homeowners and Private Landlords – Access to Financing, Carried

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that this committee recommends that the Government of the Northwest Territories partner with the northern private sector nonprofit and Indigenous governments to develop government lease agreements to support access to financing for the development of housing stock and programs. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Member. The motion is in order. To the motion? Member for YK North.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I believe right now the Housing Corp rents about 200 units, and it rents it off of very large southern landlords. I propose that those lease agreements would be suited with Indigenous governments and nonprofits or northern people in the private sector. So I know a number of Indigenous governments have wanted to take on housing, but the O&M proves a barrier. So the more that the GNWT can enter into longterm lease agreements with Indigenous governments, the more security they can have in O&M and taking over their housing for their citizens. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Member. To the motion?

Speaker: SOME HON MEMBERS

Question.

Question's been called. All those in favour? Opposed? Abstention? Motion carried.

Carried

Member for Kam Lake.

Committee Motion 143-19(2): Committee Report 16-19(2):  Standing Committee on Social Development Report on Housing Phase One:  Needs for NWT Homeowners and Private Landlords – Supportive Rental Housing for Vulnerable Populations, Carried

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that this committee recommends that the Government of the Northwest Territories increase government funding and rental housing stock to provide supportive rental housing programs for vulnerable populations to have housing and onsite support to remain housed. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Member. The motion is in order. To the motion?

Speaker: SOME HON MEMBERS

Question.

Question's been called. All those in favour? Opposed? Abstentions? Motion carried.

Carried

Member for Kam Lake.

Committee Motion 144-19(2): Committee Report 16-19(2): Standing Committee on Social Development Report on Housing Phase One: Needs for NWT Homeowners and Private Landlords – Preventative Maintenance Program for Homeowners, Carried

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that this committee recommends that the Government of the Northwest Territories work with community partners to create an indeterminate communitybased preventive maintenance program for homeowners. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Member. The motion is in order. To the motion?

Speaker: SOME HON MEMBERS

Question.

Question's been called. All those in favour? Opposed? Abstentions? Motion carried.

Carried

Member for Kam Lake.

Committee Motion 145-19(2): Committee Report 16-19(2):  Standing Committee on Social Development Report on Housing Phase One:  Needs for NWT Homeowners and Private Landlords – Northwest Territories Housing Corporation Repair Program, Carried

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that this committee recommends that the Government of the Northwest Territories expand and increase funding to the Northwest Territories House Housing Corporation repair program and decrease program eligibility requirements to reduce the future number of homes requiring major repairs and support solutions for existing homeowners. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Member. The motion is in order. To the motion? Member for YK North.

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair. I know that in the nonmarket communities where people own their peoples, we've tried for years to, you know, kind of help them and build homes and I guess ultimately the reality is in a nonmarket community a house is depreciating asset, and we have to kind of blur the lines between public and private housing in nonmarket communities. And committee heard from people that, you know, owning a house in a nonmarket community that there isn't government support. So I think from a pure housing standpoint, the government needs to look at every single house as an asset and every single house needs to be preserved. So whatever we can do to preserve houses. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Member. To the motion?

Speaker: SOME HON MEMBERS

Question.

Question's been called. All those in favour? Opposed? Abstentions? Motion carried.

Carried

Member for Kam Lake.

Committee Motion 146-19(2): Committee Report 16-19(2):  Standing Committee on Social Development Report on Housing Phase One:  Needs for NWT Homeowners and Private Landlords – Homeownership Programs with Person Centered Case Management, Carried

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that this committee recommends that the Government of the Northwest Territories implement homeownership programs with personscentered case management to navigate the complex northern housing environment, including mortgage financing, land tenure and affordable home insurance. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Member. The motion is in order. To the motion?

Speaker: SOME HON MEMBERS

Question.

Question's been called. All those in favour? Opposed? Abstentions? Motion carried.

Carried

Member for Kam Lake.

Committee Motion 147-19(2): Committee Report 16-19(2):  Standing Committee on Social Development Report on Housing Phase One:  Needs for NWT Homeowners and Private Landlords – Interdepartmental Policy Barriers for Rental Accommodation Allowance

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that this committee recommends that the Government of the Northwest Territories remove interdepartmental policy requirements creating barriers for applicants to receive the rental accommodation allowance, including requirements to be on the public housing waitlist and the payment of utility arrears. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Member. The motion is in order. To the motion? Member for YK North.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I know the Minister has spoken to this in the House, and I understand the reality that it's cheaper for ECE to put people in public housing than give them the rental accommodation allowance, but you know, that's  I think net overall, it is a  it's more expensive to not have people housed, and we know there are about 900 people on our housing waitlist who are costing the government money by being in the shelter program, by being in transitional housing, by picking up the slack in other areas. So I think a wholeofgovernment approach is to get everyone housed. And one of the ways we can do that is to remove the requirement that people be on the public housing waitlist in order to obtain rental accommodation allowance. This also gives them more flexibility to move houses, to move throughout the territory for work opportunities.

And, lastly, I just want to point out, we've asked the Housing Corp for how long the waitlist is for public housing, and they can't give a clear answer because that waitlist is so obscured by people just simply being on it to receive income assistance. So we don't even have an accurate picture of the housing waitlist because a lot of people are simply on it because of this policy requirement. So I would encourage the government to do a wholeofgovernment approach and remove this requirement. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Member. To the motion?

Speaker: SOME HON MEMBERS

Question.

Question's been called. All those in favour. Opposed. Abstentions? Motion carried.

Carried

Member for Kam Lake.

Committee Motion 148-19(2): Committee Report 16-19(2):  Standing Committee on Social Development Report on Housing Phase One:  Needs for NWT Homeowners and Private Landlords – Rental Allowance Portability, Carried

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that this committee recommends that the Government of the Northwest Territories allow rental allowance to be portable so people can choose where they want to live in housing that meets their needs. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Member. Motion is in order. To the motion?

Speaker: SOME HON MEMBERS

Question.

Question's been called. All those in favour? Opposed? Abstentions? Motion carried.

Carried

Member for Kam Lake.

Committee Motion 149-19(2): Committee Report 16-19(2):  Standing Committee on Social Development Report on Housing Phase One:  Needs for NWT Homeowners and Private Landlords – Interdepartmental Policy Barriers for Homeowners, carried

Thank you very much. I've got a double up here so I'm going to... sorry, Mr. Chair, I appear to have a copy that is not  give me a second. I've got a repeat of recommendations.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I move that this committee recommends that the Government of the Northwest Territories remove interdepartmental policy barriers for homeowners, including requirements to be on the public housing waitlist and the payment of utility arrears. This also includes removing the policy barrier requiring applicants to sell their homes. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thnk you, Member. The motion is in order. To the motion?

Speaker: SOME HON MEMBERS

Question.