Debates of October 22, 2024 (day 31)

Date
October
22
2024
Session
20th Assembly, 1st Session
Day
31
Speaker
Members Present
Hon. Caitlin Cleveland, Mr. Edjericon, Mr. Hawkins, Hon. Lucy Kuptana, Hon. Jay Macdonald, Hon. Vince McKay, Mr. McNeely, Ms. Morgan, Mr. Morse, Mr. Nerysoo, Ms. Reid, Mr. Rodgers, Hon. Lesa Semmler, Hon R.J. Simpson, Mr. Testart, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek, Mrs. Weyallon Armstrong, Mrs. Yakeleya
Topics
Statements
Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thank you. Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, spots and recreation youth, not previously authorized, $167,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thank you. Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025, Department of Municipal and Community Affairs, total department not previously authorized, $2,857,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thank you. Members, there is a schedule on page 22 to 24 that details the supplementary reserve impact. This schedule is not a voteable item and is included as information only. Are there any questions on this schedule from Members? Seeing none, no further questions. As this is not a voteable item, we will continue on.

Committee, do you agree that you have concluded consideration of Tabled Document 201-20(1), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

I'm going to go to the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

Committee Motion 40-20(1): Concurrence Motion – Tabled Document 201-20(1): Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025, Carried

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I move that consideration of Tabled Document 201-20(1), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2024-2025, be now concluded and that the Tabled Document 201-20(1) be reported and recommended as ready for further consideration in formal session through the form of an appropriation bill. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

The motion's in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Question has been called. All those in favour? All those opposed? Motion carried. The motion is number 2 carried -- Tabled Document 201-20(1) will be reported as ready for consideration in formal session through the form of an appropriation bill.

---Carried

Thank you, Minister, and thank you to your witnesses for appearing before us. Sergeant-at-arms, please escort the witnesses from the chambers. Thank you.

Thank you. I'm going to go to the Member from Inuvik Boot Lake.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, I move that the chair rise and report progress. Thank you.

Thank you. There's a motion on the floor to report progress. The motion is in order and non-debatable. All those in favour? All those opposed? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Report of Committee of the Whole

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh.

Mr. Speaker, your committee has been considering Tabled Document 200-20(1) and Tabled Document 201-20(1) and would like to report progress with two motions carried, and the consideration of Tabled Documents 200-20(1) and 201-20(1) are concluded, and the House concur in those estimates and that an appropriation bill can be based thereon be introduced without delay. And, Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of the Committee of the Whole be concurred with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member from Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh. Can I have a seconder? Member from Hay River North. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Question has been called. All those in favour? Opposed? Abstentions? The motion is carried.

---Carried

Report of Committee of the Whole. Orders of the day. Oh, we want to go to third reading of bills? Okay, we can do that. You know, cutting into time here. No, I was just -- nine minutes.

Third Reading of Bills

Bill 7: Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act, 2024, Carried

Mr. Speaker, I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Hay River South, that Bill 7, Miscellaneous Statute Law Amendment Act, 2024, be read for the third time. And, Mr. Speaker, I requested a recorded vote. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

The Minister of Justice has asked for a recorded vote. All those in favour, please stand -- oh, question first. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Recorded Vote

Speaker: Mr. Glen Rutland

The Member for Hay River North. The Member for Hay River South. The Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. The Member for Nunakput. The Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh. The Member for Deh Cho. The Member for Sahtu. The Member for Yellowknife Centre. The Member for Range Lake. The Member for Inuvik Boot Lake. The Member for Monfwi. The Member for Frame Lake. The Member for Great Slave. The Member for Mackenzie Delta. The Member for Yellowknife North. The Member for Thebacha. The Member for Yellowknife South. The Member for Kam Lake.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

All those opposed, please stand. All those abstaining, please stand. Thank you, Mr. Clerk. All those in favour, 18. Those opposed, zero. Abstentions, zero. The motion has passed. Bill 7 has had its third reading.

---Carried

Member from Yellowknife Centre.

Bill 8: An Act to Amend the Student Financial Assistance Act, Carried

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I move, seconded by the honourable Member for the Sahtu, that Bill 8, An Act to Amend the Student Financial Assistance Act, be read for the third time. And, Mr. Speaker, I request a recorded vote. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you. To the motion. Member from Kam Lake.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I'd like to begin by thanking the Member for Yellowknife Centre for advancing Bill 8. This Private Member's bill reflects a commitment to students across the Northwest Territories and helps respond to the evolving financial pressures they face. I commend the Member for this initiative on this issue and for championing a cause that matters to students.

Bill 8 proposes to raise the maximum amount of loans that can be made to one person under the Student Financial Assistance Act from the current limit of $60,000 to $90,000. The Department of Education, Culture and Employment analyzed data from a review of the student financial assistance program to determine whether increasing the loan limit would actually provide needed supports for some students.

The analysis showed that while most SFA recipients can complete their studies within the current loan limit, students with more than two dependants would need a higher loan limit to complete a four-year program with remissible loans. For example, the average student with up to five dependants would need a loan limit of almost $90,000 to complete a four-year program.

Informed by this analysis, I am pleased to say that Cabinet is prepared to support Bill 8. This change will empower more students, especially those with dependants or those pursuing longer more specialized degrees, to complete their studies and return to the North where they can contribute to our workforce and our communities. Allowing more students to access the financial resources they need to pursue post-secondary education is consistent with this Legislative Assembly's priority to build a strong economic foundation.

The department has studied the impacts of increasing the loan limit and acknowledges that implementing this change will take some time. The department is committed to working diligently to update our documents and to contact students about the change as quickly as possible. We ask for students' patience as we carry out this very important work to serve them.

The department is also considering how this change will impact the overall limit on the student revolving loan fund. Currently, the fund has a maximum aggregate balance of $45 billion with $40.8 million already outstanding. As we move forward, we will need to evaluate the need for further adjustments to ensure the sustainability of the fund.

In closing, I want to thank the Member again for bringing forward this Private Member's bill. These changes will further strengthen our student financial assistance program, one of our most effective programs built by Northerners for Northerners. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister of Education, Culture and Employment. To the motion. Member for Monfwi.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I will support this bill with the recommendation made to improve the education outcome in small -- for the Indigenous students in small communities. Increasing the student loans from 60 to $90,000 is a strong indicaftion that non-Indigenous are using the student loans more. That's why we're here now. But, Mr. Speaker, there are so many reports out there, going back as far as the Royal Commission Report on Aboriginal People, the Auditor General's report on education, Truth and Reconciliations, MMIWG, etcetera -- there's a lot of reports out there -- that says in order for the Indigenous students to advance, they need to improve -- the government needs to improve the education outcome. And just the same as what MLA Yellowknife Centre has said yesterday, we would like to see that too for our Indigenous students. We would like to see more our Indigenous students advancing themselves by attending post-secondary education to take Master's programs, PhDs, and undergrad, other professional fields, but we don't have too many of those in our small communities. So with that in mind, I will support this motion at this time with the recommendations made to improve the education outcome for Indigenous students in small communities. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Monfwi. To the motion. Member from Range Lake -- or Yellowknife Centre. Let's try that again, Member from Yellowknife Centre.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I was hoping to go last but I'll go any time you call upon me. That said, I just wanted to use the opportunity to thank everyone for being involved in this process. Again, I want to acknowledge the Thomas family for their advocacy. It is a grassroots initiative brought to the Assembly. This is to hopefully help many students bring more education to the North and can help empower people, and that's -- you know, it's an exciting process to feel that you're helping energize young people and get them into, you know, creating the future for all of us. So, Mr. Speaker, I won't take up a lot of time. I've already spoken on this a few occasions. And I think all kids of this initiative will be blessed.

And lastly, I want to stress I do appreciate the Member from Monfwi. And I know she has qualified support, which I respect, and I -- and I'm grateful, as I said yesterday, that I would do my advocacy as well to help support the initiative education issue as well, and I sincerely mean that. And I don't know if that was the difference of having her consider the option proposal, but I certainly meant what I said which was I would help her on her fight to help raise standards of living, quality of education, and outcomes for Indigenous communities and their citizens as well. So, again, thank you to all Members. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member from Yellowknife Centre. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question.

Recorded Vote

Speaker: Mr. Glen Rutland

The Member for Yellowknife Centre. The Member for Range Lake. The Member for Inuvik Boot Lake. The Member for Monfwi. The Member for Frame Lake. The Member for Great Slave. The Member for Mackenzie Delta. The Member for Yellowknife North. The Member for Thebacha. The Member for Yellowknife South. The Member for Kam Lake. The Member for Hay River North. The Member for Hay River South. The Member for Inuvik Twin Lakes. The Member for Nunakput. The Member for Tu Nedhe-Wiilideh. The Member for Deh Cho. The Member for Sahtu.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

All those opposed, please stand. All those abstaining, please stand. All those in favour, 18. Opposed, zero. Abstentions, zero. Bill No. 8 has now passed.

---Carried

Orders of the Day

Speaker: Mr. Glen Rutland

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Orders of the day for Wednesday, October 23rd, 2024, at 1:30 p.m.

Prayer

Ministers’ Statements

Members’ Statements

Returns to Oral Questions

Oral Question 297-20(1): Wellness and Addictions Recommendations

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Acknowledgements

Oral Questions

Written Questions

Returns to Written Questions

Replies to the Commissioner’s Address

Petitions

Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

Reports of Standing and Special Committees

Tabling of Documents

Notices of Motion

Motions

Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

First Reading of Bills

Second Reading of Bills

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tabled Document 193-20(1), 2025-2026 Capital Estimates

Report of Committee of the Whole

Third Reading of Bills

Orders of the Day

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, folks.

This House stands adjourned until Wednesday, October 23rd, 2024, at 1:30 p.m.

---ADJOURNMENT

The House adjourned at 6:01 p.m.