Debates of February 12, 2025 (day 43)

Date
February
12
2025
Session
20th Assembly, 1st Session
Day
43
Speaker
Members Present
Hon. Caitlin Cleveland, Mr. Edjericon, Mr. Hawkins, Hon. Lucy Kuptana, Hon. Jay Macdonald, Hon. Vince McKay, Mr. McNeely, Ms. Morgan, Mr. Morse, Mr. Nerysoo, Ms. Reid, Mr. Rodgers, Hon. Lesa Semmler, Mr. Testart, Hon. Shane Thompson, Hon. Caroline Wawzonek. Mrs. Weyallon Armstrong, Mrs. Yakeleya
Topics
Statements

Question 503-20(1): Stanton Territorial Hospital Public-Private Partnership Project

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I have some questions for the Minister of Infrastructure as well. So when she says things that the records are not as good as they could have been in 2014, 2015, my archivist heart comes out and I go oh dear. So, fundamentally, that is a huge red flag for someone who understands how the government keeps records. So we have records disposition authorities within every department, including her department, including back in 2014, 2015, Mr. Speaker. And so my question is how are we not keeping records that we are bound to by law? Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Member for Great Slave. Minister of Infrastructure.

Mr. Speaker, it strikes fear into my heart as a lawyer who is under obligations to hold records as well. So I can't answer for what may or may not have happened back in 2014 or 2015, Mr. Speaker. What I can answer for is the efforts that we're making today to make sure that we don't find ourselves back in this situation. Not only today but looking back even a few years now within this -- within more recent government, changes to the procurement process, changes to the records management. We have a procurement committee. It might seem like an extra layer, but to not have coordination amongst procurement shared services, infrastructure, and the departments that are being serviced by them, makes it far too easy for things to be missed and to not be properly tracked. There's changes in the capital planning process to better provide information about long-term costs associated with a project.

There's a single place where procurement now lives, both a dashboard that is publicly available, and, again, within the Office of the Comptroller General which is our counterpart to the auditor general's office.

Between all of those things, and likely more that I've missed, and it's supposed to be a short answer, Mr. Speaker, I am satisfied that we've made a lot of change, and we'll continue to look for opportunities to do that. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. And, you know, it's already at the barn door, you can't close it in the past; I understand that. So what sort of forensic audit did the department do to try and seek out those records and indeed how did they cooperate with the OAG? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, the work between, I believe -- well, multiple departments and the auditor's general office of Canada went on for I want to say two years. It might have been slightly longer than that. That's fairly extensive, and I'd be happy to perhaps provide that by way of a written response. I won't do it justice here. The Department of Finance and the Office of the Comptroller General works with the Auditor General's Office of Canada on an annual basis. They prepare all of the audits for our government. And so, again, I think there was two parts to the question, and I'm thinking I'm missing the second half. But, again, in short, Mr. Speaker, happy to commit that we will provide some detail on the extent of the work that went on and the extent of the collaboration we had with the auditor general's office. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister of Infrastructure. Oral questions. Member from Frame Lake.