Thank you, Mr. Speaker. What the Minister shared there was quite vague. What I'm trying to get -- what I'm trying to narrow in on is what problem are we trying to solve. What are the issues in our workforce that we're trying to solve? Is it the fact that, you know, employment at the mines has only reached about 40 percent northern over the years? Like, are there specific issues we're trying to address with this goal; do we even know? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, last year when MLAs were complaining that there were no targets attached to our mandate, we were told it's all going to be in the business plans. But a year later, in many cases I don't see this happening. When I look at our updated business plans, in many cases I'm not sure I see a clear plan articulated for much of what we're trying to do.

Because it came up during your review of the ECE budget last night in COW, I'm going to focus on targets related to growing the workforce today. But I want to be clear that there are a number of areas where we need to...

Thank you, Madam Chair. And just to speak to a specific line item, another kind of part of this in the housing is spectrum and continuum, homeowner entry level and market housing programs, I note there is a reduction from 2024-2025 from -- or sorry, there's an increase. Can the department explain to us what's contained in that increase and what is going to be taking place there.

Thank you very much, Madam Chair. I certainly appreciate my colleague's hard work although they've pulled a bunch of questions out of what I was planning to ask, so having to switch on the fly here.

I do appreciate the department clarifying that we are currently looking at up to -- well, we're currently looking at kind of -- and I'm assuming they meant kind of approved and moving forward 147 units before the end of the term of this Assembly. What I would ask kind of to build upon some of the comments that have already been made, you know, we had a good discussion about the $50 million over...

Thank you, Madam Chair. Madam Chair, am I allowed to ask a couple questions of the Minister during this time?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. So, Mr. Speaker, I guess to get to the point of my statement, why are some of ECE's targets on this item so vague? There are items that are very specific, like the 10 percent one I listed in my statement. But, for example, our post-secondary education goal is simply to maintain or grow. It doesn't say how much, it doesn't say when. Can we get a commitment from the Minister for these items in the growing and enhancing our northern workforce goals in the business plans that we will get achievable, measurable goals, attached to those items in the business plans. Thank you...

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, my questions are for the Minister of ECE also. We're just really hammering her today with the knowledge that she's leaving soon. Sorry, us new Members are still getting used to all these rules.

Mr. Speaker, for our mandate item grow and enhance the northern workforce, what specific problem or problems are we trying to address with this high-level goal? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Madam Chair. Sorry, I'm just having to go through -- I think that's -- that's it for kind of business plan related questions from me. I'll ask my specifics on the next pages. Thank you.

Thank you, Madam Chair. And, I mean, I guess what I would say in response to that is that the difficulty is -- I'm not necessarily looking for documents per se. I don't think that staff time is necessarily best spent kind of just producing plans and reports all the time, but the problem is that if we don't know what we're trying to achieve, it's very hard to define for the people trying to achieve it what success is going to look like and what they should be working towards. So I guess I've got to come up with some Member's statements to talk about this a bit more because -- but the bottom...

Thank you, Madam Chair. Just give me a sec here to find -- okay. Yeah, I just wanted to note that there doesn't appear to be any substantial growth in this area of the budget, the labour development and standards area generally. However, a number of goals in the business plan, and certainly the mandate of this government, speaks to increasing workforce, and I could go through the process of listing off a bunch but I'll ask questions about business planning in a sec.

Can I just ask the high level question first, you know, how is this division supporting the priorities of this mandate...