Robert Hawkins

Okay. Now we’re getting to it. So what has been developed thus far? I heard him say it can’t be released to the public, so maybe if you could speak in broader brush strokes where it is, how long it has been worked on, and when that package is going to be ready for MLA consumption.

On the record here, can the Minister clarify, does this come at a cost of NWT products that are being saved or archived or protected for future usage? My understanding is that the Nunavut archives or historical items – I’m not sure what the best phrase here is to describe it – but the archival collection is larger than the Northwest Territories. What is permitted Nunavut for actually repatriating their artifacts? Because, if I understand it correctly, it’s actually squeezing and putting pressure onto our small amount in comparison to theirs.

No, what I mean more so is when you do capital planning you do almost like a business case, business plan, strategy, you sort of look at… You guys know what that is. Where is the development of the college into actually… Where is the business case model and who is developing the business case model that moves the planning for a new Aurora College independent campus into the capital plan? Because you need a business plan of sorts before this, and that falls under the operations.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I seek unanimous consent to return to 10-9. I didn’t hear you call it out. That was my error.

---Unanimous consent granted

Yeas that’s part of this division, is to develop plans. It’s not actually to submit a plan for capital dollars to build, it’s all about building a plan.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. WHEREAS regulating a maximum price for gasoline in the Northwest Territories would promote fairness and improve confidence for consumers and retailers throughout the Northwest Territories;

AND WHEREAS the cost of living in the Northwest Territories is high, and volatile fuel prices have a direct impact on all consumers;

AND WHEREAS a formula used to get gasoline prices would improve fairness and transparency in product pricing;

AND WHEREAS the public deserves full disclosure of the details of the price it pays for gasoline;

AND WHEREAS the Government of the Northwest...

Staying away from dollar value because it doesn’t really work on power bills or, for example, oil bills. It’s rather to start on a consumption level analysis, that way you know what is considered a baseline of fairness, because those other things change. They fluctuate. Does Public Works and Services set any communication tools up based on consumption levels based of these types of consumables that Public Works and Services at the end of the day picks up the bill for and the responsibilities held within the department has actually been taken away? Does Public Works and Services have any type...

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just a drilldown on some of these problems here a little further. Would the Minister provide his definition, or I should say his department’s definition of using a bond versus a deposit? So maybe if he could divide the two, explain what they are and why you would use one over the other.

I’m not sure that I agree with the distinction. I mean, I would say that building maintenance, operation maintenance is somewhat identical to this and it’s split per usage, so based on percentage. If you have mixed usage, it would be based on mixed usage. Other governments do this. The federal government does this. Any organization using common area space would do this. You ask anybody in a condominium, they pay per square footage on their condo fees on common usage space.

I’m just curious why we wouldn’t do this on one but yet on TSC we do a direct chargeback. To me, it’s a paradox. As well as...

So if consumption increases then process therefore would increase. I haven’t seen any energy bills get cheaper to use. Who is responsible for any spike in usage? I guess it’s around stewardship. If Public Works and Services has become the department that picks up the bills but say Education runs all their buildings lights on, whatever, it seems like the responsibility is out of touch with those who, they’re not connecting. How do you manage that problem?