Robert Hawkins

Mr. Chairman, I was just going to reaffirm that I hope the Department of Education, Culture and Employment is taking this seriously, the increase, and that I too – Mr. Ramsay beat me to the punch –- think that this is now a serious demonstration of how we could fix some of our expenditures and our problems associated with that.

On top of that, a lot of people know that this would bring a new and much higher profile to the college, that I think it requires and is also hungry for, because I think this college now wants to continue to grow. As well, it has potential, I think, of migrating towards...

Mr. Chairman, I’ll start with this one. It looks like we have a $33,000 increase to fund increases associated with salary and life and disability insurance for our Territorial Court judges. If we ask ourselves aloud: how many judges do we have in the Territorial system? We have four. Over 12 months, that works out to be a lot of money as an increase just for insurance.

I’m just wondering maybe if the Minister can break down the detail. It looks like almost $600 per judge per month as an increase. That seems like a lot of money just for an insurance sum. Did something change? Is something...

What does it cost to hire one of these professionals if we were to staff them at Stanton Hospital? Thank you.

Mr. Chairman, changing gears but on the same subject, you said recruitment of family lawyers. Would the Minister be able to provide the details of the staffing levels of those who are were practising family law in the legal aid system. How much would this $403,000 change or add? Would that give us one lawyer or two lawyers? Would that give us a full complement, et cetera?

Mr. Chairman, everyone is making a big deal out of the fact that, oh goodness, we have to send them there, but I want to first find out how many court-ordered assessments have been issued, and how much is the typical rate that we would normally pay a local psychiatric person/professional to do this job? Thank you.

I’m sorry to belabour this point, but if anyone takes a look at this, everything he’s said doesn’t apply to the example we talked about before. Whether we’ve topped up the project, it’s my point of view, again, that we’re not following consistent patterns here.

I’ll say it the same way I closed off my last point. It appears to be a lone position, but again, it doesn’t necessarily mean my point is incorrect, in that not everyone on this side of the House is screaming, “clarity, consistency.”

Anyway, I’ll leave it at that, Mr. Chairman. We could be here all day belabouring this. The fact is, I’m...

My question, probably misunderstood, had nothing to do with the direction to order court-ordered psychiatric assessments. It had to do more so with whether we provide those services in the Northwest Territories.

Again, I wish to reaffirm, not just to the Member who represents the community but anyone else out there who’s listening and who cares. The fact is — and it’s not a criticism of the project — now we have the example where the other applies.

Again, now I’ve bought into the Finance Minister’s important song and dance and passionate plea that this is the way we do things; this is way we’ve done things since 1997; and now we do this project through Capital Investments. So just when I get it clear that if we’re going to build a gym in Gametì that I suspect belongs to the community, now if we go look...

When we’re done, I’d like to go back to page 14, but I know we haven’t finished the page.

Mr. Chairman, the Finance Minister may be technically right, but in no case should we be funding capital projects, in my view, out of O&M money. It just sounds funny. When you go to read it up in the books to find out where the gymnasium is in a potential budget, you’re going to go to the capital budget.

The last thing I’ll say is that just because we do it this way and we’ve done it this way for a long time doesn’t mean it’s right. And just because we do it this way all the time, every time, we’re never going to get a different answer or a different process.

I think our process would be better...