Debates of February 9, 2011 (day 36)

Date
February
9
2011
Session
16th Assembly, 5th Session
Day
36
Speaker
Members Present
Mr. Abernethy, Mr. Beaulieu, Ms. Bisaro, Mr. Bromley, Hon. Paul Delorey, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Hawkins, Mr. Jacobson, Hon. Jackson Lafferty, Hon. Sandy Lee, Hon. Bob McLeod, Hon. Michael McLeod, Mr. Menicoche, Hon. Michael Miltenberger, Mr. Ramsay, Hon. Floyd Roland, Mr. Yakeleya
Topics
Statements

QUESTION 419-16(5): SENTENCING AND REHABILITATION OF VIOLENT OFFENDERS

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’ve got questions for the Minister of Justice again today following up on some of my questions and my statement from yesterday. Again, getting back to sentences that are handed out to individuals who have repeatedly committed offences of a violent nature, you know, yesterday the Minister was talking about the programs and services that are available to people who are incarcerated in our corrections system. Mr. Speaker, I’d like the Minister, perhaps he can explain to me and to this House and to the public in the Northwest Territories how the system that we have in place could fail this individual 19 times. Nineteen, Mr. Speaker. How is that explainable to the public in the Northwest Territories that the system has failed this individual and others, Mr. Speaker?

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. The honourable Minister responsible for Justice, Mr. Lafferty.

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. Once inmates are in the institution there are various programs that are offered to them, whether it be treatment healing programs, substance abuse, sexual offender relapse, family violence, men who abuse program. There are all these different programs. There is also specific to healing. Those are the areas that the rehabilitation of those inmates that our staff is focused on. But there are certain circumstances where individuals who if they are very high risk then take different programs as well.

Mr. Speaker, we can’t control those individuals that are outside the institution. They have their own life once they leave the facility. But when they are in a facility, the department, the corrections staff, the counsellors are working closely with them until they leave the facility so they can be reintegrated back into the community. There is also an on-the-land program that we initiated a couple years back that has been very successful. Those are just some of the areas that we continue to focus on, Mr. Speaker. Mahsi.

Mr. Speaker, this individual that has 19 prior offences of a violent nature, in fact, killed somebody, got five years. Mr. Speaker, according to some folks that work with sentencing, this individual could be walking the streets of the Northwest Territories in 22 months’ time. Mr. Speaker, 19 times the system has failed him. I’d like to again ask the Minister of Justice what safeguards are in place or what are we going to do differently with this individual that is going to ensure public safety when he gets released, Mr. Speaker? Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, these individuals that the Member is referring to, they are in a system where they may be released earlier than expected. It is at the discretion of the judge. They make the final decision.

The programs are in place within corrections and outside of corrections. It’s interdepartmental. It’s not just our Justice department. We work with the RCMP ‘G’ Division with respect to awareness programs, information being sent out that these individuals are out there. They do what they can. We work closely with the RCMP ‘G’ Division, the Justice department, and we will continue to do so. We work closely with the Department of Health and Social Services as well. Mahsi.

Mr. Speaker, I hate to think that the next victim is part of the justice system here in the Northwest Territories and part of an individual’s rehabilitation plan. That’s hard to imagine, Mr. Speaker; the fact that someone can reoffend 19 times of a violent nature, in this case, and there are other instances.

I spoke of an individual that has 18 prior convictions. He got five months for assaulting his partner. This speaks to some serious flaws in the way that we are rehabilitating offenders of violent crime here in the Northwest Territories.

Again, I’d like to ask the Minister -- I asked him yesterday -- can we have some type of wholesale review of the services and programs that we provide to inmates that are incarcerated in our correctional system for violent crimes? Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, I believe we have. Within our programming there’s been a review undertaken to have an overall look at the whole programming that we offer at corrections. There have been some changes reflected on that, Mr. Speaker. We’ve heard from inmates, from the people in the public to say these are particular programs that should be offered, whether it be the on-the-land program, that we’ve heard over and over. Definitely, this is an area that we continue to monitor, Mr. Speaker. If there are going to be changes required, then we’ll make those changes. But again, it is federal legislation, federal law that we have to follow and the decisions lie with the judge, the final decision, Mr. Speaker. It is at their discretion. Mahsi.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Your final supplementary, Mr. Ramsay.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. If individuals are recommitting offences 15, 16, 18, 19 times, Mr. Speaker, doesn’t the Minister want to state to this House and state to the public that, yes, we have a problem with the way we are rehabilitating individuals that are incarcerated in our corrections system, Mr. Speaker? That’s obvious. I’d like to again ask the Minister to commit to a review of services and programs provided to individuals who are incarcerated in the Northwest Territories today for violent crimes. Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, again, these are the programs that we offer. We made some changes and we will make some changes again if the need arises, dealing with reintegration back to the community or rehabilitation. This is the main focus that we have in the system. We’re also, within the community of justice and also the RCMP ‘G’ Division, the focus is on preventative measures as well. Those are the areas that we continue to work with within our department and other partners that are involved. Yes, those are the areas that we need to closer monitor, Mr. Speaker, and change is always in the system with the programming. Mahsi.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. Time for question period has expired. The honourable Member for Great Slave, Mr. Abernethy.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to return to item 7 on orders of the day.

---Unanimous consent granted