Debates of February 8, 2013 (day 3)

Statements
Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Yakeleya.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Also part of the planning is the safety of the roads. I want to ask the Minister if he would seriously consider looking at some routes in the Sahtu where there would only be a one lane section, because these roads are really, some of the areas are real goat trails and we need to really put some strong safety issues into those areas. I ask the Minister if he would consider looking at the route also for safety measures.

Yes, we are looking at that. Again, given what’s happened here this winter with the weather and the traffic, I think we need to be looking at all of that. Certainly, from our perspective, safety of that road and the safety of the travelling public is the number one priority.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. The honourable Member for Hay River South, Mrs. Groenewegen.

QUESTION 34-17(4): DECENTRALIZATION

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to ask the Premier if he could confirm that the 18 positions that are referred to in the budget address yesterday, is that the total extent of the decentralization being looked at for this fiscal year? Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mrs. Groenewegen. The honourable Premier, Mr. McLeod.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. The 18 are the ones that have been identified as decentralization. There are other positions that will be identified through devolution. But for the 18, I can confirm it looks like there are five positions that will be decentralized to Hay River. Thank you.

Again, not wanting to pre-empt any kind of process or notification to employees or anything, but is the Premier able to be any more specific about those positions?

There is one position with liquor licensing and enforcement and four would be the Business Incentive Policy office. Thank you.

I thank the Premier for that. I think there’s actually a lot more but it’s probably not easy with where we are in the business plans to identify all of those, so we will stay tuned and get updates as they become available.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

No question. A comment. The honourable Member for Yellowknife Centre, Mr. Hawkins.

QUESTION 35-17(4): DENE KO DAY SHELTER FUNDING

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. In reply to my last question, I heard the Minister of Health and Social Services, in some manner or form it sounded like he blamed the people who attend the day shelter for the, I’ll say, tone and atmosphere.

Maybe the Minister can elaborate further as to the running of the day shelter. Is it blamed on the people who run it there or the people who manage it? Let’s get this on the record and get some clarity. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. The Minister of Health and Social Services, Mr. Beaulieu.

Nobody’s really to blame. I’m just saying that this service is needed, and in the facility and how well it runs is largely dependent upon on who’s using the service. Thank you.

To be clear, what role does the management play in the operation and running of a day shelter, if the Minister is blaming the problems on the clientele?

The role of the provider, as I laid out earlier, is to provide a warm place for the individuals to attend, and then they recommended a couple of additional things that they would like to do. Those things were like referrals, and training of staff and so on, and various aspects of the staff.

I’m not really sure where the Member is indicating that there has been blame issued to anybody on the running of the facility. It is what it is. How we provide a service is dependent upon our clientele.

Let’s summarize it this way: If we have deviant behaviour going on at the day shelter, wouldn’t you expect the management to provide a safe and controlled environment that allows people to be there in a warm place in winter that doesn’t have substance abuse of any kind or even violence? Wouldn’t that be sort of a management issue, not necessarily a client-driven issue?

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Mr. Hawkins, that is really a fine line where we’re attacking the media; not the media but the people in management in those positions and they’re not here to protect themselves. They’re not here to say anything. But I’d like to redirect your question to the Minister. I’ll give you that opportunity. Thank you. Mr. Hawkins.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I appreciate your guidance on that issue. The ultimate problem here is we have well-known deviant behaviour happening there. The Minister has even highlighted it in our discussions. Is the management responsible to provide a safe environment that is free of violence and substance abuse? Thank you.

I think the management’s responsibility is to provide a place for individuals to attend. I think they indicate that if there are other issues, other behaviours of the clientele that they’re looking for some training to deal with it, but I suppose that if you want to indicate that the responsibility of a warm, safe place for individuals to attend the day shelter, then I guess that would be the responsibility of the people operating the shelter.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Short, final supplementary, Mr. Hawkins.

Mr. Speaker, the Minister has spoken about how the management has changed the contract there by changing services or even offering services. Maybe you could elaborate what they are doing outside of the original proposal that we have not agreed to. I am trying to understand what is happening there and I think the public deserves that. Thank you.

I think I indicated that they had requested some training in certain areas, and that they have requested that they be allowed to deal with some of the other organizations in the community in which they can refer their clientele. I think the original concept of its shelter was to provide a warm, safe place for individuals to go during the day. These are people that don’t have anywhere else to attend. But the opportunity of getting the people together, the provider thought that these things had been added and had requested that, and had not actually changed the agreement in any way or the contract in any way. Thank you.

Tabling of Documents

TABLED DOCUMENT 11-17(4): ARTICLES ON DAY SHELTERS

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I would like to table three documents. I will table them as a compendium package here. What I will do is I will name what they are. They are three individual stories that are printed off from the Internet. One is called the New Orderly Daytime Home Shelter Looks a Lot Different this Year. The second one is Part I, The City and the County Takes on Madison Day Shelter, and third, Drop-in Homelessness Linked to New Shelter. They are very interesting stories that I think are good for the public to see.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. Item 16, notices of motion. Item 17, notices of motion for first reading of bills. Mr. McLeod.

Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

BILL 1: TLICHO STATUTES AMENDMENT ACT

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I give notice that on Monday, February 11, 2013, I will move that Bill 1, Tlicho Statutes Amendment Act, be read for the first time. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. McLeod. Item 18, motions. Item 19, first reading of bills. Item 20, second reading of bills. Item 21, consideration in Committee of the Whole of bills and other matters: Tabled Document 9-17(4), NWT Main Estimates, 2013-2014, with Mrs. Groenewegen in the chair.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

I would like to call Committee of the Whole to order. Tabled Document 9-17(4), NWT Main Estimates, 2013-2014, is the only matter before the committee today. What is the wish of committee? Mr. Menicoche.

Thank you, Madam Chair. I move that we report progress.

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Report of Committee of the Whole

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Report of Committee of the Whole, Madam Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Your committee has been considering Tabled Document 9-17(4), NWT Main Estimates, 2013-2014, and would like to report progress. Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of Committee of the Whole be concurred with. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Madam Chair. Do I have a seconder? Mr. Yakeleya.

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Orders of the Day

Speaker: Mr. Mercer

Mr. Speaker, orders of the day for Monday, February 11, 2013, 1:30 p.m.:

Prayer

Ministers’ Statements

Members’ Statements

Returns to Oral Questions

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Acknowledgements

Oral Questions

Written Questions

Returns to Written Questions

Replies to Opening Address

Replies to Budget Address

Petitions

Reports of Standing and Special Committees

Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

Tabling of Documents

Notices of Motion

Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

Motions

Motion 1-17(4), Setting of Session Hours by Speaker

First Reading of Bills

Bill 1, Tlicho Statutes Amendment Act

Second Reading of Bills

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Tabled Document 9-17(4), NWT Main Estimates, 2013-2014

Report of Committee of the Whole

Third Reading of Bills

Orders of the Day

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Accordingly, this House stands adjourned until Monday, February 11th, at 1:30 p.m.

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The House adjourned at 11:49 a.m.