Debates of June 3, 2014 (day 34)

Date
June
3
2014
Session
17th Assembly, 5th Session
Day
34
Speaker
Members Present
Hon. Glen Abernethy, Hon. Tom Beaulieu, Ms. Bisaro, Mr. Blake, Mr. Bouchard, Mr. Bromley, Mr. Dolynny, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Hawkins, Hon. Jackie Jacobson, Hon. Jackson Lafferty, Hon. Bob McLeod, Hon. Robert McLeod, Mr. Menicoche, Hon. Michael Miltenberger, Mr. Moses, Mr. Nadli, Hon. David Ramsay, Mr. Yakeleya
Topics
Statements

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The Minister and I just had a sidebar. My questions have been completely cleared up. I guess in my case, my concern, yes, has been validated, but the Minister has shown me reasons why it deserves, and I will respect that and not pursue it any further. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Hawkins. I’ll go on to Ms. Bisaro.

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I also have a process question here and I don’t believe we discussed it. It may have come to my mind after we went through the bill at committee, but if an amount in here, for instance, an amount that is to be forgiven, if it is not written off first, if it goes straight to forgiveness of debt and it’s now written off, how then is it accounted for in the public accounts? The comptroller general referenced that write-offs are part of the doubtful accounts in the books, but if it goes straight to forgiveness of debt, how is it accounted for? Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Bisaro. For that, we’ll go to Mr. St. Germaine.

Speaker: MR. ST. GERMAINE

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In terms of accounting for forgiveness and bad debts, basically what occurs in government and public agencies when we look at our accounts receivable, we look at the likelihood of collection and we generate what’s called an allowance for doubtful accounts. When that’s generated, when that amount’s determined, the charge is made either to the appropriation, in the GNWT’s case, or against expenditures from the public agency. So the expense is recorded in the year that the recoverable amount is considered to be impaired. So, from an accounting perspective and evaluation perspective, that’s taken account of and taken care of during the audit of the preparation of annual financial statements. The write-off and forgiveness is an event that happens subsequent to that. Not all accounts that are allowed for are necessarily written off. We may, in fact, collect on them later. Similarly, all accounts don’t necessarily find their way to forgiveness. Thank you.

Thanks to Mr. St. Germaine. So just a quick follow-up. So then the allowance for doubtful accounts includes both write-off amounts and forgiveness amounts. Is that right? Thank you.

Speaker: MR. ST. GERMAINE

Yes, they include that and additional accounts that haven’t reached a point of seeking specific approval. Thank you.

Okay. Committee, we’re on general comments, Bill 9, general comments. Does committee agree that there are no further comments and we’d like to proceed to clause-by-clause of the bill?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thank you, committee. Committee, we’re going to actually defer the clause-by-clause on page 1 until we give consideration to the schedule and if I can draw your attention, committee, to pages 3 to 9 in the bill. Schedule, debts forgiven, total, $648,471.63. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Committee, if I can get you to turn back to page 1, Bill 9, Forgiveness of Debts Act, 2013-2014, clause 1.

---Clauses 1 and 2 inclusive approved

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Does committee agree that Bill 9, Forgiveness of Debts Act, 2013-2014, is now ready for third reading?

---Bill 9 approved for third reading

Thank you. Bill 9 is now deemed ready for third reading. I’d like to thank the Minister. I will turn it over to Minister Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I just wanted to acknowledge that Mr. St. Germaine, on June 20th, is going to start the fruits of his many years of labour and he is going to retire. This will be the last time he will be appearing before this august body at this witness table. I just want to thank him on behalf of all of us and I just want to wish him a very long, happy and productive next stage of his life because I don’t imagine he’ll retire, but this is his last time here.

---Applause

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. We would like to echo those very same words on behalf of the House, Mr. St. Germaine. It is well deserved. Thank you for your years of service. We thank you very much. Sergeant-at-Arms, if you could please escort the witness out, please. Thank you.

Ms. Bisaro, what’s the wish of committee?

Mr. Chair, I move that we report progress.

---Carried

Report of Committee of the Whole

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Mr. Dolynny, can I have the report of Committee of the Whole, please.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Your committee has been considering Committee Report 6-17(5), Standing Committee on Government Operations Report on the Review of 2014 Report of Auditor General of Canada on Northwest Territories Child and Family Services; Tabled Document 93-17(5), Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2014-2015; Bill 8, Write-off of Debts Act, 2013-2014; and Bill 9, Forgiveness of Debts Act, 2013-2014. I would like to report progress with 21 motions adopted and that Committee Report 6-17(5) is concluded and that Bills 8 and 9 are ready for third reading and that consideration of Tabled Document 93-17(5) is concluded and that the House concur in those estimates and that an appropriation bill to be based thereon be introduced without delay. Mr. Speaker, I move that the report of Committee of the Whole be concurred with. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Dolynny. Do I have a seconder to the motion? Mrs. Groenewegen.

---Carried

Mr. Miltenberger.

Mr. Speaker, I seek unanimous consent to return to item 16, notices of motion for first reading of bills.

---Unanimous consent granted

Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills (Reversion)

BILL 31: SUPPLEMENTARY APPROPRIATION ACT (OPERATIONS EXPENDITURES), NO. 1, 2014-2015

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I give notice that on Thursday, June 5, 2014, I will move that Bill 31, Supplementary Appropriation Act (Operations Expenditures), No. 1, 2014-2015, be read for the first time. Thank you.

Orders of the Day

Speaker: Mr. Schauerte

Orders of the day for Wednesday, June 4, 2014, at 1:30 p.m.:

Prayer

Ministers’ Statements

Members’ Statements

Returns to Oral Questions

Recognition of Visitors in the Gallery

Acknowledgements

Oral Questions

Written Questions

Returns to Written Questions

Replies to Opening Address

Petitions

Reports of Standing and Special Committees

Reports of Committees on the Review of Bills

Tabling of Documents

Notices of Motion

Notices of Motion for First Reading of Bills

Motions

Motion 21, Public Review of Horizontal Hydraulic Fracturing

First Reading of Bills

Bill 29, Human Tissue Donation Act

Bill 30, An Act to Amend the Public Service Act

Second Reading of Bills

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

Bill 26, An Act to Amend the Elections and Plebiscites Act

Committee Report 7-17(5), Report on the Development of the Economic Opportunities and Mineral Development Strategies

Report of Committee of the Whole

Third Reading of Bills

Orders of the Day

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Clerk. Accordingly, this House stands adjourned until Wednesday, June 4th, at 1:30 p.m.

---ADJOURNMENT

The House adjourned at 8:14 p.m.