Debates of March 5, 2014 (day 23)

Date
March
5
2014
Session
17th Assembly, 5th Session
Day
23
Speaker
Members Present
Hon. Glen Abernethy, Hon. Tom Beaulieu, Ms. Bisaro, Mr. Blake, Mr. Bouchard, Mr. Bromley, Mr. Dolynny, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Hawkins, Hon. Jackie Jacobson, Hon. Jackson Lafferty, Hon. Bob McLeod, Hon. Robert McLeod, Mr. Menicoche, Hon. Michael Miltenberger, Mr. Moses, Mr. Nadli, Hon. David Ramsay, Mr. Yakeleya
Topics
Statements

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. Committee, page 3, Supplementary Estimates (Operations Expenditures), No. 4, 2013-14. Legislative Assembly, operations expenditures, Office of the Clerk, not previously authorized, $170,000.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Office of the Speaker, not previously authorized, $35,000.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Statutory offices, not previously authorized, $120,000.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Total department, not previously authorized, $325,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thank you. Page 4, Executive, operations expenditures, directorate, not previously authorized, negative $450,000.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Ministers’ offices, not previously authorized, $25,000

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Total department, not previously authorized, negative $428,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Committee, I was just notified by the Clerk that I may have said the one number wrong, so just for the record, directorate, not previously authorized, negative $453,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thank you, committee. Human Resources, operations expenditures, Human Resource Strategy and Policy, not previously authorized, $345,000. Mr. Blake.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I believe you didn’t do the Red Cross.

Actually, Mr. Blake, I did read in the $25,000. Thank you, I appreciate it.

Committee, for clarity, and for the record, we will redo page 4. Mr. Blake is paying attention; that’s great. Thank you.

Executive, operations expenditures, directorate, not previously authorized, negative $453,000.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Ministers’ offices, not previously authorized, $25,000.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Total department, not previously authorized, negative $428,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thank you. Page 5 Human Resources, operations expenditures, Human Resource Strategy and Policy, not previously authorized, $345,000.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Employee services, not previously authorized, $1.141 million.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Total department, not previously authorized, $1.486 million. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thank you. Page 6, Public Works and Services, operations expenditures, asset management, not previously authorized, $2.054 million.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Total department, not previously authorized, $2.054 million. Mr. Bromley.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I understand a good proportion of this is due to the 7 percent increase in electrical rates. This is a formula we have known several years in advance; this is a good example of my perplexity of why we are dealing with this in a supp when we know well ahead of time that we are having a 7 percent increase in our electrical rates. I don’t doubt that there are other factors involved here, but clearly a big proportion of that is the 7 percent increase, a substantive increase as we’ve had for the last three years. We know we are going to have a 5 percent increase next year. Is the Minister aware of that? Will he budget that 5 percent in?

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Minister Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I have asked the deputy to provide the information to why it came forward as a supp this year but, yes, next year it will be built in and won’t come forward as a supp, but with your indulgence, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Minister Miltenberger. Mr. Aumond.

Speaker: MR. AUMOND

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The reason it’s in a supp is that actual rates were not approved by the PUB until July 9, 2013, and Public Works and Services, after that, did their data compilation, so that’s why it’s appearing as a supp and it will be a base adjustment going forward after that. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Aumond. Committee, we are on page 6, Public Works and Services, operation expenditures, asset management not previously authorized, $2.054 million. Total department not previously authorized, $2.054 million. Does Committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Thank you. Page 7, Health and Social Services, operations expenditures, directorate, not previously authorized, $120,000.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Program delivery support, not previously authorized, $567,000.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

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Health services programs, not previously authorized, $12.568 million. Mr. Bromley.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I believe this is dealing with increased costs for health care services, non-NWT residents and NWT residents, and I believe we are collecting or recovering costs for the non-NWT residents. Is the amount that we are increasing for health care services provided to residents outside the NWT? Is this above normal and what is the full expenditures for that item, the increased costs for health care services outside the NWT? Rather than the increase, what is the full cost to give some context to that $3.775 million? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. For that we will go to Mr. Aumond.

Speaker: MR. AUMOND

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Including the $6.6 million in this supp, the total costs, projected costs for services, is $15.447 million.

Thank you, Mr. Aumond. Mr. Bromley.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just to be clear, is that for total costs for health care services for residents outside the NWT?