Debates of October 22, 2014 (day 41)

Date
October
22
2014
Session
17th Assembly, 5th Session
Day
41
Speaker
Members Present
Hon. Glen Abernethy, Hon. Tom Beaulieu, Ms. Bisaro, Mr. Blake, Mr. Bouchard, Mr. Bromley, Mr. Dolynny, Mrs. Groenewegen, Mr. Hawkins, Hon. Jackie Jacobson, Hon. Jackson Lafferty, Hon. Robert McLeod, Mr. Menicoche, Hon. Michael Miltenberger, Mr. Moses, Mr. Nadli, Hon. David Ramsay, Mr. Yakeleya
Topics
Statements

QUESTION 426-17(5): JUNIOR KINDERGARTEN IMPLEMENTATION

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’m just going to follow up with some questions for the Minister of Education, Culture and Employment on my Member’s statement today. I’d just like to ask the Minister, seeing as it’s our first year of the Junior Kindergarten program and next year we’re going to be going into phase two where we’re going to be taking the Junior Kindergarten program into some of the regional centres such as Inuvik, I’d like to ask the Minister has he consulted with the DEAs and the DECs as well as other private daycare facilities and businesses on how this Junior Kindergarten program is going to affect especially the private daycares? Has he done that consulting and has he talked with them? Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Moses. Minister of Education, Culture and Employment, Mr. Lafferty.

Mahsi, Mr. Speaker. On the second phase approach, when it comes to regional centres on the deliverance of Junior Kindergarten, there’s going to be a lot of engagement that is happening right now. I’ve already presented to board chairs; district education councils and also DEAs are aware of that as well. They’re in line for a second phase approach, also the daycare operators. The Children First Society is part of the process. We’ve invited the daycare operators, I believe the beginning of last month, to have a workshop, and it has been very successful to date, just to deal with the outcome of the JK. Not only that, as we move forward, having an engagement of these various organizations is very critical and we need to involve the community members, the community organizations as we roll out the program in the regions. Mahsi.

The workshops sound great to the daycares. Members, committees have heard about all the good work that would come out of Junior Kindergarten. We heard all the statistics and research. What I’m trying to get at here is whether or not the daycares have expressed concern that when we incorporate Junior Kindergarten to the regional centres that there’s going to be all the four-year-olds moving into the schools, which would result in lost revenue for the daycares. It’s not only going to happen in Inuvik, it’s going to happen in all the communities that have daycares. It’s going to happen here in Yellowknife as well.

Has the Minister heard those concerns, and is the Minister willing to make it optional, as well, for the regional centres and the city of Yellowknife to implement Junior Kindergarten like he did in the first phase, making it optional? Thank you.

Mahsi. As I stated, there will be various forms of engagement with the organizations at the regional level. This is the second phase approach when it comes to delivery of Junior Kindergarten.

My understanding is that my staff will be meeting with the Children First Society and the community of Inuvik on the specifics of Junior Kindergarten program delivery, I believe, within the next couple of weeks. So there will be a full-blown discussion of any concerns, issues or ideas, suggestions that will be coming forward by operators and community members. Mahsi.

Thank you. A couple of years ago, this government contributed funding to the Children First Centre in Inuvik to early childhood development and to give these children a place to learn and to be educated. Then two years later we say we’re taking all the four-year-olds out, possibly.

Would the Minister be looking at creating some type of provision within the Junior Kindergarten program where the funding that goes to the district education authorities be flowed through to the daycares and the daycares get the funding so they open up spots for people in the community with children who are four years old? Would he look at a provision in the Junior Kindergarten program for the funding to get flowed to the daycares? The businesses would stay open and kids would have a spot to go, rather than going to the school. Thank you.

As I stated, not only Inuvik but in Yellowknife, as well, there’s been engagement with the daycare operators and we continue to provide funding, whether it be the daycare operators, the Aboriginal Head Start program. There’s other early start programming that we will continue to offer. This week my staff will be in Inuvik and highlighting some of those areas of opportunities. Also, if there are concerns brought to our attention, then we need to follow up on those concerns. This will be a second phased approach. So we will re-evaluate our first approach of 23 communities, the pros and cons moving forward, what have we learned, so we don’t reinvent the cycle within the second and third year approach. Mahsi.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Minister Lafferty. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Moses.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. As the four-year-olds go into the school system and educators who went to school to be educators now take on an extra responsibility for these four-year-olds, has the Minister created some type of training program, looked at supports that are needed for these educators? Has he approached the kindergarten educators and given them the support they need, the training that they need and the materials that they need to ensure that this Junior Kindergarten program is successful, stuff that daycares have? Thank you.

Mahsi. Those are particular programs that will be in place. We have provided the training program for the teachers in the springtime and also late fall for those individuals that didn’t partake in the training when we first initiated it in the 23 communities. When it comes to the second phase of the regional centres, most definitely. Those particular trainings will be delivered to those teachers that will be delivering JK in those communities. Mahsi.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Lafferty. The Member for Mackenzie Delta, Mr. Blake.

QUESTION 427-17(5): BEAVER POPULATION MANAGEMENT IN THE MACKENZIE DELTA

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I have a question for the Minister of ENR. As you heard earlier, there are a lot of concerns about low water levels, especially up in the region of Beaufort-Delta, Mackenzie Delta, and a lot of this when we’re travelling throughout the river system what we notice is there are a lot of beavers in the region, but the price on the pelts are so low that nobody is trying to trap them.

I was wondering if the Minister is open to putting a quota on the beaver in the Northwest Territories. Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Blake. The Minister of Environment and Natural Resources, Mr. Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We, of course, would be interested to talk to the Member more about his thoughts on that. We have co-management boards we’d want to talk to and other involved stakeholders. So, of course, we’d have to look at the financial implications, but we could talk further with the Member about it. Thank you.

It’s pretty clear that the population has skyrocketed, and I’d like to ask the Minister what steps his department is doing to ensure the beaver population is controlled. Thank you.

We deal with the beaver as we do with any other animal under our Trapping Program. There’s a price that’s there for fur, and people are encouraged and we support trapping and all the trapping initiatives to make sure that we do have folks that trap and that they pass those skills on to the children. We don’t have a specific program specifically targeted at beaver. We do have some special attention paid to wolves, trying to encourage folks to harvest them and receive some benefit from that.

The Member made a comment about the populations skyrocketing. I’d have to check that with our staff, of course, and see in fact if that’s the case and where.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. The Member for Hay River North, Mr. Bouchard.

QUESTION 428-17(5): TAX RATES FOR PETROLEUM PRODUCTS

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to follow up on my colleague’s questions about gas. I guess one of the questions that I have to the Minister of Finance is the taxation side of gas.

What percentage of gas prices is the taxation on it?

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Bouchard. The Minister of Finance, Mr. Miltenberger.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. We have some of the lowest gas taxes in the country and we, as well, don’t charge for non-motive fuel. Thank you.

Thank you. I’m just wondering: is that percentage, or that amount, has it gone up over the last few years, or has it been maintaining? Thank you.

The tax rate has not gone up. Consumption has tended to increase over time. So the taxes have gone up, but the tax rates haven’t gone up since the ‘90s. Thank you.

I’m looking to see if it’s a flat rate or percentage, the amount that we charge, and have we considered changing that amount at all.

We haven’t touched the price of fuel, motive or non-motive. We haven’t touched those for years, as I’ve indicated. The concern is the impact on the cost of living where we already have the highest cost of living and highest cost of goods and services in many cases in the country.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Final, short supplementary, Mr. Bouchard.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. How much money do we collect each year in gas taxes?

I don’t have that specific number, it would vary by year, but I will get that information for the Member. Thank you.

Tabling of Documents

TABLED DOCUMENT 135-17(5): NORTHWEST TERRITORIES BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENT CORPORATION 2013-2014 ANNUAL REPORT

TABLED DOCUMENT 136-17(5): NORTHWEST TERRITORIES BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT AND INVESTMENT CORPORATION 2014-2015 CORPORATE PLAN

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I wish to table to following document, entitled “Northwest Territories Business Development and Investment Corporation ‘13-14 Annual Report” and “Northwest Territories Business Development and Investment Corporation ‘14-15 Corporate Plan.” Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Ramsay. Mr. Miltenberger.

TABLED DOCUMENT 137-17(5): 2013-2014 60TH ANNUAL REPORT – NORTHWEST TERRITORIES LIQUOR LICENSING BOARD AND LIQUOR ENFORCEMENT

TABLED DOCUMENT 138-17(5): 2013-2014 60TH ANNUAL REPORT – NORTHWEST TERRITORIES LIQUOR COMMISSION

Mr. Speaker, I wish to table the following two documents, entitled “2013-2014 60th Annual Report, Northwest Territories Liquor Licensing Board and Liquor Enforcement” and “2013-2014 60th Annual Report, Northwest Territories Liquor Commission.” Thank you.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Miltenberger. Mr. Bromley.

TABLED DOCUMENT 139-17(5): DENE LEADERSHIP MEETING OCTOBER 25-27, 2011, MOTION NO. 11/12-008 - HYDRAULIC FRACTURING IN DENENDEH

TABLED DOCUMENT 140-17(5): GWICH’IN TRIBAL COUNCIL 31ST ANNUAL GENERAL ASSEMBLY AUGUST 19-21, 2014, RESOLUTION NO. 006:2014 AGA – ANTI-FRACKING

TABLED DOCUMENT 141-17(5): THE SAHTU SECRETARIAT INCORPORATED 2014 ANNUAL GENERAL MEETING, RESOLUTION NO. 1 – PROTECTION OF LANDS AND WATERS

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I’d like to table three instruments of the voice of the people. The first one is the Dene Leadership Meeting Motion No. 11/12-008 from their meeting on October 25-27, 2011, in Fort Smith. It’s on hydraulic fracturing. It calls for a moratorium on hydraulic fracturing.

I’d also like to table Gwich’in Tribal Council 31st General Assembly Resolution No. 006:2014 AGA, entitled “Anti-Fracking,” from August 19th to 21st of this year.

I’d also like to table, finally, the Sahtu Secretariat Incorporated 2014 Annual General Meeting Resolution No. 1 on fracking, which calls for a comprehensive review, study and consideration of the risks and benefits of hydraulic fracturing in the Sahtu Settlement Area. Mahsi.

TABLED DOCUMENT 142-17(5): ANNUAL REPORT OF THE EQUAL PAY COMMISSIONER FOR THE NORTHWEST TERRITORIES FOR THE PERIOD JULY 1, 2013, TO JUNE 30, 2014

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Thank you, Mr. Bromley. Colleagues, pursuant to Section 40.23(2) of the Public Service Act, I wish to table the Annual Report of the Equal Pay Commissioner for the Northwest Territories for the period of July 1, 2013, to June 30, 2014. Thank you.

Notices of Motion

MOTION 29-17(5): EXTENDED CARE FACILITIES

 I give notice that on Monday, October 27, 2014, I will move the following motion: Now therefore I move, seconded by the honourable Member for Hay River South, that  the government develop a long-term action plan for the provision of the necessary long-term care beds, indicating the steps they will take  in the areas of resources, facilities and timing to meet this urgent need for facilities for seniors, including possible partnerships to serve those seniors who have some financial independence, in both large and small communities;

And further, that the government provide Avens Society with the assurance of support needed to enable construction of their proposed new 60-bed territorial facility and renovation of existing facilities to begin next spring;

And furthermore, that the government respond to this motion within 120 days. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Consideration in Committee of the Whole of Bills and Other Matters

I’d like to call Committee of the Whole to order. What is the wish of committee? Ms. Bisaro.