Debates of June 16, 2016 (day 22)

Date
June
16
2016
Session
18th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
22
Members Present
Hon. Glen Abernethy, Mr. Beaulieu, Mr. Blake, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Ms. Green, Hon. Jackson Lafferty, Hon. Bob McLeod, Hon. Robert McLeod, Mr. McNeely, Hon. Alfred Moses, Mr. Nadli, Mr. Nakimayak, Mr. O’Reilly, Hon. Wally Schumann, Hon. Louis Sebert, Mr. Simpson, Mr. Testart, Mr. Thompson, Mr. Vanthuyne
Topics
Statements
Speaker: MR. ANDERSON

Yes, thank you, Mr. Chairman. Yes, we would anticipate it would stay at that same level, so we’re going to continue to have money set aside for the contributions that we provide in Yellowknife, Hay River, and Inuvik that identifies the actual cash outlay when you buy off the market. But in the other communities across the Northwest Territories where we provide the high subsidy, as I said earlier, we’ll be asking folks if they want to purchase a unit from the corporation. Then that would apply in the scenario that I mentioned to you before. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate that. It seems like then we are going to have kind of two line mechanism for reporting path next year. Is that correct.

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Mr. Anderson.

Speaker: MR. ANDERSON

Thank you. You will be able to see on our actuals, the expenditure amounts will be consistent probably with previous years. In terms of the budget numbers, it will be at the $75,000 level thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Mr. Vanthuyne.

That is it. Thank you.

Thank you. Do we have further comments or questions on page 371? Mr. O’Reilly.

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I am really tired. I am still trying to understand this PATH stuff. I appreciate the attempts by our Minister and staff to try to explain this. Will the money that is used, will it show up in the public accounts? Is that the place where this is going to show up, this sort of money, in and out again? Or how is that actually going to be reflected? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. O’Reilly. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, it will show up in the financial reports. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. O’Reilly.

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Is that the public accounts then? Thanks Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. O’Reilly. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That is correct. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. O’Reilly.

Thanks. I think, again, the concern is that we have new federal dollars starting to finally come in. That should not be a reason or pardon me, an excuse for us to withdraw money out of housing. I will be watching the public accounts to see if that is indeed the case. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. O’Reilly. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Anything further, Mr. O’Reilly?

No. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Comments or questions on 371. Seeing none, we can move to 370. Mr. Nakimayak.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. My apologies for the mix-up earlier. Just getting back to the Beaufort Delta district, my question to the Minister and her staff is 2014-15 actuals were $8,793, and 2016-17 main estimates are $8,381. I just want to know if the Minister can elaborate on the cuts on that. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Nakimayak. Minister Cochrane.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will let Mr. Martin speak to that one.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Martin.

Speaker: MR. MARTIN

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The reason why, again as mentioned previously regarding the year-end accounting adjustments between major capital and minor… There was additional projects at the end of the year that were deemed to be minor capital in nature, therefore O and M, and were reclassified. That explains why the 2014-15 actuals were higher than what you are seeing in the main estimates figure. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Martin. Mr. Nakimayak.

That is good. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Nothing further. I have Mr. Thompson on my list. Mr. Thompson.

Regarding the Nahendeh district, I see an increase of $228,000. Could you explain what the increase is on that? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I was tempted to ask the Member if he would like us to remove it. Instead of giving you that answer, I will ask Mr. Martin to speak to it.

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Thank you, Minister. Mr. Martin.

Speaker: MR. MARTIN

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The increase is explained, again, by the new federal funding that has come in. That is the Nahendeh’s share of that new federal funding. That was for, again as mentioned, demolition, fuel, and hot water tank replacements and minor MNR work. Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mr. Martin. Mr. Thompson.

Thank you and I thank you for that answer. However, I notice that you talked about yet a new LHO coming into Fort Liard with three positions, new office space. Where is that money in this budget? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That is actually covered within the community housing services which is on page 361.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I guess I am just a little bit confused because it talks about district operations. Maybe I can get a clarification what district operations means then if it doesn’t mean the O and M and staffing of their district office as well. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Mr. Anderson.

Speaker: MR. ANDERSON

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. The district office that we have in our regional centres, that supports the delivery of our home ownership programs and our capital works that we do. The offices that we have at the community level are under the community housing services activity as well as the resources in administration and maintenance that you see there would be where the dollars are to support the positions, the 128 positions, we have at the community level. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Anderson. Mr. Thompson, do you have further questions that pertain to page 370, as we have already agreed upon 361?

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just trying to clarify because I guess it is just a little confusing for myself with this process. I apologize. I see that money is there, so we are all good. Thank you.

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Nothing further, Mr. Thompson? Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Mr. Beaulieu is next on my list. Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, similar questions on the reductions. My interest of course in the North Slave district and South Slave district. Just wondering if they could explain the reductions compared to the actuals in 2014-15.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. It is the same issue, but I will let Mr. Martin expand on that.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Martin.