Debates of June 17, 2016 (day 23)

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Thank you, Ms. Haener. Ms. Green.

Thank you very much, Mr. Chair. I appreciate that complete answer. I understand that the current service provider has now developed some expertise in delivering this program. I am wondering if there is any possibility, pending the satisfactory review, whether in fact there could be a seamless transition between the current contract and the next contract with the same service provider. Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

Mr. Chair, that certainly would be a possibility. Of course it depends on the evaluation and also the competitive process. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Green.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think that running a program of this kind is a very particular task. Where this current service provider has amassed this expertise as well as the skilled staff, I certainly would encourage the department to have the information in hand about continuing the contract sooner rather than later so that they can make that decision without there being layoff notices and a shutdown of the program if in fact it looks like it is worth continuing. That is a comment. My next question is if the evaluation shows that the program should not be continued in that form, what is the next step? Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

Mr. Chair, the government is committed of course to funding these types of organizations because it has been clearly identified that this is a very important area, if I could put it that way, in our society and we do need this help. However, it may be that the program has to be redesigned. We would find that out after the assessment of the program is done. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Green.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate that. My hope is that there is as little interruption in this program as possible. I also have some questions on integrated case management. Maybe I should let my other colleagues have a turn first. Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Mr. Thompson.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I would like to just follow-up on Ms. Green’s questioning in regards to this program. We are going to evaluate it. How long is the stoppage of offering this type of program or a similar program in this area? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

Mr. Chair, our clear objective is to not have any gap in providing this service. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I guess my question is: if you are evaluating now, is the evaluation going to be done before the program stops in December and that you will have another program ready to go March or January 1st? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

Mr. Chair, we have already started the evaluation and we are hoping to get that done in the fall, before the end of the current contract. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Are you making a commitment that this program or a similar program will be ready to go on January 1st so that there is no lapse? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

Mr. Chair, we would certainly hope that there would be no gaps, that there would be a seamless transition if I could put it that way. It does depend somewhat on the evaluation. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Is the department willing to continue working with the present organization that is running this program, if there is going to be a lack in getting the report done by December 31st, will you work with this organization to continue to run this program until such time as the new program or this is enhanced? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

Mr. Chair, we are hoping that the appraisal of the program, the evaluation of the program, will be completed by the mid-fall, perhaps October, November. If there are issues, we certainly are not going to abandon the field, as it were. We are committed to having this program or this type of program in force. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

Thank you. Am I understanding that if the report isn’t done, this type of program or a similar program will be implemented until such time as the new program is started? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

Mr. Chair, the organization that we have contracted with has undertaken, as I understand it, to deliver the evaluation of the program by the end of fall. Certainly, we wish to have seamless delivery of this program or this type of program on an ongoing basis. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

Maybe it’s Friday and I’m not getting the message, here. Is the department willing to look at the potential of having to cover, in the short-term if this report isn’t done, to offer this type of programming until such time as a new program is implemented? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

Mr. Chair, perhaps I could have Ms. Haener expand on my responses. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Haener.

Speaker: MS. HAENER

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We expect to get the evaluation completed before the contract with the current service provider ends on December 31st, 2016. If the evaluation outcome is such that there is significant change that is needed, and in the interests of not having a gap in services, we would look at what options would be available to not have a gap, and that could include extending the current contract with the service provider, for example. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Ms. Haener. Mr. Thompson.

Thank you, Ms. Haener, and I thank the Minister for his answers as well. Can the Minister commit to providing the social development committee with an update on this, so we know what’s going on in this area? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Minister.

Certainly, Mr. Chair, we would be prepared to provide such an update. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Thompson.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. No further questions on this page, thank you.

Thank you. Mr. Nadli.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to ask a question to the Minister. Apart from the New Day program initiative, are there any other programs for men that could bring about reformative measures in the spirit of wellness and healing? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. Minister.

Mr. Chair, there is, of course, the domestic violence treatment court, DVTO, which has been up and operating for several years in Yellowknife and, more lately, in Hay River. There are other programs to assist men in these situations. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Nadli.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The Minister has stated that, in terms of evaluating the merits of continuing the New Day program, there could be an effort to redesign the program. Could the Minister explain: if indeed it goes down the path of redesigning the program, to continue, would it have a local community or else a territorial focus? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. Minister.

Certainly, once the evaluation is received, there may be some changing in the type of program that is required as a result of that evaluation. Obviously, it will have a northern or territorial emphasis, or emphases to it. Thank you, Mr. Chair.