Debates of June 17, 2016 (day 23)

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Thank you, Minister. Mr. Nadli. There’s nothing further from Mr. Nadli. Ms. Green.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I’d like to talk a little bit about integrated case management, another of the department’s pilot projects. Could the Minister please tell us the status of the Integrated Case Management program? Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I wonder if I could have Ms. Haener assist in responding to this question. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Haener.

Speaker: MS. HAENER

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The most recent status reports that I actually just looked at the other day for integrated case management show that there are 75 clients that have been referred to the integrated case management unit. Those clients come from a number of different areas and are referred by anyone from front-line service providers at Stanton, RCMP, Yellowknife health and social services, legal aid, probation, Housing Corporation. They’ve been looking at and working with those individuals on a wide range of issues. Often, housing is an item that the clients need assistance on. It can also be assistance on items around other supports or accessing other programs offered by government and by others. There is an evaluation process that has commenced already for integrated case management. The first part of the process under the pilot was to establish measures that will… And what data would be collected through the life of the pilot so that an appropriate evaluation could be undertaken. There are now sufficient clients that part of the next stage of evaluation would include interviewing those clients to get a sense of their experience and their perception of what’s worked and what hasn’t, and to also speak to service providers that have referred the individuals to the program to understand their experience with the pilot. Those are the kinds of things that would be looked at in the next evaluation of the pilot. That is an interim evaluation. There would then be a final evaluation closer to the end of the pilot, because it does come to an end at the end of this fiscal year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Ms. Haener. Ms. Green.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Could the Minister tell us, of those clients referred, how many are currently active in the program? Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

Mr. Chair, I don’t believe we have that level of detail before us. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Green.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That’s fine. If the Minister could supply that to me separately, that would be satisfactory. My question is whether this evaluation may prompt a continuation of this program, or is this program at the end stage? Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

Mr. Chair, the program is at a sunset phase, if I can put it that way, at this current time. Certainly it could be considered, or some program like this could be considered, in the next business program. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Green.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. What would the Minister be looking for in terms of evaluation results to decide whether to continue this program? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

Yes. Certainly, Mr. Chair, there does seem to be value in this type of program, and depending on how the evaluation of the pilot project moves along, we would be looking at this type of program or something very similar to it in the future with our business plans. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Green.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I think that the idea for this program, which is to bring government departments together to respond to the complex needs of their clients where they may overlap in a number of different departments, is in itself very valuable because it means that the client service providers talk to one another about what they are providing. I certainly am interested in hearing what the evaluation turns up. Can the Minister make a commitment about where and when he will share the results of the first stage of the evaluation? Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

Yes, Mr. Chair. Certainly we could come to committee and provide them with information at the appropriate time. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Green.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We would welcome the appearance of the Minster at the committee to discuss the evaluation in its first stage. Thank you for his answers.

Thank you, Ms. Green. I have no further questions for this page. We will continue to page 265, community justice and policing, active positions. Comments or questions? Comments or questions on 265? I’m seeing none. I’ll give committee a moment. Committee has no comments or questions. We will turn to page 263, the operations expenditure summary. Comments or questions on this page? Seeing no comments… Mr. Testart.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Under contract services, there is an increase this year. Could the Minister provide some detail on the additional expense and what we are contracting? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister.

Mr. Chair, this is as a result of the transfer of wilderness camp funding from corrections. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Testart.

Nothing further. Any further comments or questions from committee? Seeing none. I will call this page, community justice and policing, operations expenditure summary, total activity $5,040,000. Agreed?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

We will continue on with corrections. The operations expenditure summary is on page 267. We will defer that until we look at the detail. Beginning on page 268, corrections, grants, contributions and transfers. Comments or questions? Seeing none. Mr. O’Reilly.

Thanks, Mr. Chair. There is quite a big change, of course, in the way that we’re… Or the funding for the youth facilities. Am I on the right page? Are we on 267?

We are on page 268. Mr. Testart.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I’m just a little confused to see wilderness programming under corrections as a contribution. I just asked a question about contract services under community justice and policing and was told that that increase was wilderness camp funding. If the Minister could just clarify? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister.

Mr. Chair, I would ask to defer this question to Ms. Schofield. She can assist. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Schofield.

Speaker: MS. SCHOFIELD

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Not the entire amount of the wilderness camp funding was transferred, only the $225,000. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Ms. Schofield. Mr. Testart.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Why? Why is it in two different program areas, if it’s one program? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister.

Perhaps, Mr. Chair, Ms. Schofield can assist with that also.

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Schofield.

Speaker: MS. SCHOFIELD

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As part of the department’s reductions, we identified $225,000 to come out of the wilderness camp program. However, committee had requested that we keep that money and transfer it into community justice and policing. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Ms. Schofield. Mr. Testart.

Thank you. I certainly appreciate the Department of Justice being responsive to the concerns of committee. Nothing further, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Would the Minster like to respond?

Mr. Chair, we are always responsive. Thank you.

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