Debates of June 23, 2016 (day 24)

Date
June
23
2016
Session
18th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
24
Members Present
Hon. Glen Abernethy, Mr. Beaulieu, Mr. Blake, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Ms. Julie Green, Hon. Jackson Lafferty, Hon. Bob McLeod, Hon. Robert McLeod, Mr. McNeely, Hon. Alfred Moses, Mr. Nadli, Mr. Nakimayak, Mr. O’Reilly, Hon. Wally Schumann, Hon. Louis Sebert, Mr. Simpson, Mr. Testart, Mr. Thompson, Mr. Vanthuyne
Topics
Statements

Thank you. Mr. Testart.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Does that also include our schools as well? Not just the school authorities or district authorities, but the actual schools themselves. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Ms. Gault.

Speaker: MS. GAULT

Thank you, Mr. Chair. If the question was regarding the school boards, we provide the school boards with the network connectivity. We do not provide them their e-mail, nor their desktop support. The health authorities, it is for the full desktop and their service support. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you. Mr. Testart.

Sorry. Thanks, Mr. Chair. Perhaps I was unclear. Do we also provide that service to the schools themselves, not just the school boards, but the actual schools? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Ms. Gault.

Speaker: MS. GAULT

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We don't provide any of the desktop or any of the equipment to the schools. We provide them with some support for the Internet reporting. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Ms. Gault. Mr. Testart.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Where would I find detail on security software, security infrastructure that is protecting the government? I see we have information per department, but are we tracking -- is there a clear way to see what we are spending on information security? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Ms. Gault.

Speaker: MS. GAULT

Thank you, Mr. Chair. At the desktop level, we provide encryption on all laptops, as well as we have just implemented desktop software with antivirus as well as hacking, illegal attempts. This is on every desktop. At the data centre level, we have firewall protection, so against traffic coming in and out of our data centre, in through the government. At those, as well as on the infrastructure itself, there is security built into the different pieces of equipment. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Ms. Gault. Mr. Testart.

For the data centres themselves, which would be in the area of most vulnerability if there are issues there, is that contained in the Public Works and Services line? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I will let the deputy minister address that answer.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Guy.

Speaker: MR. GUY

Thank you, Mr. Chair. No. The Public Works and Services line would just be our portion of the chargeback. So it would be rolled up into the overall budget of the TSC, and some of it would be under contract services. For example, there is licensing around security software; some of it would be O and M, for purchasing small hardware associated with the security software. But the security is a significant portion of the work that we do at the TSC. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Mr. Testart.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I appreciate the department clarifying these questions. Finally, are we funding positions that are specialized in security analysis and how many there are? What are they? Can I just get more detail on those positions if they do exist? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Mr. Guy.

Speaker: MR. GUY

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The overall responsible for the security is the Chief Information Officer's Office in the Department of Finance. He has some specific staff in his office that are focused on security. Our role is really to make sure that we adhere to the security policies and best practices. I will have Laurie speak to the detail, but we do provide specific training around security to the staff that operate the data centres and the equipment and the software and the servers. In terms of overall security policy and monitoring, on a global scale, more of that would fall under the purview of the sales office. But I will ask Ms. Gault, if the Chair will allow, to provide additional detail. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Mr. Testart.

That is fine. I will save questions for the Department of Finance. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Any more questions for Technology Service Centre? Seeing none, I will call the activity total. Technology Service Centre, operations expenditure summary, activity total, $1,712,000. Agreed?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

We have some information items at the end of the chapter, page 395, public stores revolving fund. Questions? Seeing none, page 396, petroleum products revolving fund. Page 397, petroleum products revolving fund, active positions? Seeing no questions, move on to page 398. Lease commitments. Any questions on lease commitments? I see no questions from committee we move on. Page 399, work performed on behalf of others. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Under the Royal Canadian Mounted Police line item the description indicates that we have an MOA in place with regard to maintenance and utility management services. I'm just curious as to why in 2014-15 we are at about five and a half million dollars and then in the last couple of years we're at $8 million. What was the increase for? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Minister.

Thank you. I'll let Paul Guy answer that as well.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Guy.

Speaker: MR. GUY

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The funding level for that program is established with the RCMP on an annual basis. The actual numbers were based on what we spent in 2014-15 delivering that program up to that limit of $8 million. It was, I think, very early on in the program, we were still ramping up, still doing a billing assessment, condition assessments so we did not do as many perhaps retrofit and renovations projects that year as we are now doing. Most of it was basic code-mandated preventative maintenance on fire extinguishers, alarm systems, dealing with backlogs on their boiler and system repairs. So it was really just ramping up to the level of funding, it is fully charged back, it's fully recovered, and it's for the work plan that we developed in cooperation with the RCMP. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Seeing nothing further from Mr. Vanthuyne, I have Mr. O'Reilly.

Thanks, Mr. Chair. On this page, there's a new allocation of $50,000 to the Healthy Family Centre here in Yellowknife. Can someone from the department explain that? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Mr. Guy.

Speaker: MR. GUY

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That's one-time funding to do project management and deliver a kitchen renovation project that will be recovered from that organization. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Guy. Mr. O'Reilly.

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I think there was a story in the paper, I don't even know what day of the week it is anymore, yesterday about -- is this the -- what do they call it? I think there's some sort of a family centre in the SideDoor; is that what this money is to help them with some renovations or to help Yellowknife Health and Social Services with some renovations of that building? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. No, the Side Door actually is a non-profit. This is for the Yellowknife Health and Social Services Authority, and so the Healthy Family Program is right across the street from there. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. O'Reilly.

Thanks. I don't have any other questions on this one. Thanks.

Yes. This must be a new program or maybe it's with a name that I don't know. So it's across the street from where, please? Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Ms. Green is right, I'm not sure of the name either. When I'm reading it it's the healthy family thing, so it's the parenting support program that the authority provides to parents. It used to be right across from the authority, now I'm not too sure if there's a restaurant there so I might have the location correct at this point, but it is the parenting support program that the authority goes into families and teaches parenting to struggling parents. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Ms. Green.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. No further questions.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Anything further on this page? Seeing no further questions, we'll return to page 377. Any final questions for the department total? I'll give committee a moment. Mr. Nadli.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just wanted to get an explanation from the Minister. The Minister stated that an initiative in Aklavik will be undertaken in terms of trying to move away from diesel energy and at least maybe advance forward with a solar energy project. I'm just kind of wondering if that initiative was merited on two fronts. Maybe in the first instance is because of its northerly location as a community and having transportation issues. And very similarly and recently too, there was an initiative in Colville Lake in terms of establishing solar energy to supplement the generators.

The other point that I wanted to make is these communities are serviced by NTPC. Were those things considered when that initiative was rendered and a decision was made to go forward on those bases? Thank you.