Debates of October 19, 2016 (day 33)

Date
October
19
2016
Session
18th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
33
Members Present
Hon. Glen Abernethy, Mr. Beaulieu, Mr. Blake, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Ms. Green, Hon. Jackson Lafferty, Hon. Robert McLeod, Hon. Bob McLeod, Mr. McNeely, Hon. Alfred Moses, Mr. Nadli, Mr. Nakimayak, Mr. O’Reilly, Hon. Louis Sebert, Hon. Wally Schumann, Mr. Simpson, Mr. Testart, Mr. Thompson, Mr. Vanthuyne
Topics
Statements

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Is that sufficient? Mr. O'Reilly.

Thanks, Mr. Chair. Yes, I would really look forward to that information along with the transition plan that the Minister's promised so we could see what this new resource centre is actually going to look like and what it's going to do in relation to what was there. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. O'Reilly. Mr. Minister.

Yes, I think we are or have been consulting with the department and also will be consulting with the Bar Association about the new resource centre. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. O'Reilly.

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I'm just wondering if the Minister can give me some idea about when he's going to be in a position to provide that plan and the numbers to me? Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Thanks, Mr. O'Reilly. Mr. Minister on transitional plan requested?

I'm told that we can provide those figures next month.

Thank you, Mr. Minister. It's going to be provided. Does that answer your question? Mr. O'Reilly.

Thanks, Mr. Chair. I really look forward to getting this plan and the figures from the Minister. I appreciate the work of the department to put that together. Thanks, Mr. Chair.

Thanks, Mr. O'Reilly. Anything further? Mr. Thompson, have you got a question?

Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. With this plan, the protocol, the process, will this plan actually be sent to us or do we have to wait till we receive it in February when we're sitting again? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Mr. Minister.

Mr. Chair, I believe we could share the plans with committee next month. So we wouldn't have to wait till February. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Mr. Thompson.

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I thank the Minister for that commitment and look forward to seeing it in committee. So thank you very much, that will be all my questions. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Thompson. Further questions? Seeing none. We shall proceed on calling Justice, court services on page 54, $91,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON.MEMBERS

Agreed.

Agreed. Moving on to page 57, services to public, infrastructure investments, $65,000. Detail on 58. Questions to detail? Go ahead, Ms. Green.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Chair, is this a carryover from a prior year, the purchase of the coroner's van? Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Mr. Minister

I understand it is not a carryover from the previous year. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Ms. Green.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Could the Minister say when this van was last replaced? Thank you.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Mr. Minister.

Mr. Chair, I understand that it's been 12 years since the van was replaced. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Minister. Ms. Green.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Those are all my questions.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Anything further? We shall return to page 57, Justice, services to the public, infrastructure investment, $65,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Agreed. We shall return to page 50, Justice Department, total capital investment estimate, $16,683,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

We shall go back. Mr. Nadli.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, I just initially couldn't hear so now I'm able to hear with my microphone. But I wanted to raise the questions regarding the community justice and policing. I'm quite disappointed in terms of the preamble that outlines the infrastructure and the budgets for 2016-17 make references to 2017-18. It doesn't make mention of the New Day Program, so I wanted to ask the Minister if he could give us a status of the New Day Program and where it's at and where it's going? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Nadli. Mr. Minister, if you want to answer that question.

Yes, the New Day Program is not a capital project. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Minister for that clarification. Okay, that's not a capital purchase. I'll repeat again. Total capital estimate for the Department of Justice $16,683,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Agreed. Thank you, Minister Sebert. I see that we are concluded with Justice. We can carry on. Thanks to the witnesses for attending. Can the Sergeant-at-Arms escort the witnesses?

We will consider the Department of Education, Culture and Employment. Does the Minister Moses wish to bring in witnesses?

Sergeant-at-Arms, please escort the witnesses into the Chamber. Minister, please introduce your witnesses for the record.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. On my right I have deputy minister Sylvia Haener and my assistant deputy minister on my left, Olin Lovely.

Thank you. We shall start on page 9, Education, Culture and Employment. We will defer total until after consideration of activity summaries starting on page number 10. Education, Culture and Employment, education and culture, infrastructure investment, $14,454,000. Detail is on page 11. Questions? Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I'm going to talk about what's not here today on the Capital Plan listed on page 11, and that is the Capital Plan to construct a gymnasium and a couple of classes for the K’alemi Dene School in Ndilo. Mr. Chairman, my understanding is that the numbers at which the school becomes eligible for its own gymnasium is 125 students. I see that there's been some departure from that in the past, but I didn't know what the full capacity of some of these schools were at the time the gymnasiums were built.

The bottom line is that K’alemi Dene there is currently 117 students and the school has a full capacity of 121. Mr. Chairman, that is third highest percentage of all schools in the Northwest Territories, and projections indicate that the K’alemi Dene School will soon have 140 students within the next five years, so I want to ask the Minister what the plans are for expanding the school so that it sits within the correct enrolment percentages or capacity that's application to all schools across the territory, and if there is any contemplation by this department to build a gymnasium in Ndilo along with two additional classrooms that can accommodate the students in K’alemi Dene School. Marci cho, Mr. Speaker.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Mr. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and just in addition to what I had mentioned earlier during question period that the department is consistent in assuring that our obligation under our capital standards are being met across the Northwest Territories, that we have 49 schools, that we understand and foresee the utilization rates in K’alemi Dene School increasing over the years. Due to our capital standards, schools with an enrolment from 50 to 150 students require a certain size gymnasium and that's what they have down in Ndilo right now. However, there's a planning study that’s going to be performed by our department along with Public Works to determine the program design requirements, and a class C cost estimate for the 2017-2018 FMB submission which is expected to include additional instructional space and potentially a gymnasium. So that work is going to be going on very, very soon, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I'm wondering if the Minister could give me a little more detail on the timing of what he had spoke about. Maybe the timing as to when we can expect to see this being contemplated through the Capital Planning Process or if it's already been contemplated through the Capital Planning Process. I don't know. So just a little more detail on the timing. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Mr. Minister, timing and schedule?