Debates of February 20, 2017 (day 56)

Date
February
20
2017
Session
18th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
56
Members Present
Hon. Glen Abernethy, Mr. Beaulieu, Mr. Blake, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Ms. Green, Hon. Jackson Lafferty, Hon. Bob McLeod, Hon. Robert McLeod, Mr. McNeely, Hon. Alfred Moses, Mr. Nadli, Mr. Nakimayak, Mr. O’Reilly, Mr. Testart, Hon. Wally Schumann, Hon. Louis Sebert, Mr. Thompson, Mr. Vanthuyne
Topics
Statements

Thank you, Minister Moses. Mr. Nakimayak.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just one more thing: I just wonder how the department is going to roll this out and advertise it across the Northwest Territories for this year? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Nakimayak. Minister Moses.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. We already have a lot of contacts with organizations, based on the history of the rollout of the small community employment support program. We will continue to work with those organizations and continue to have some of our regional staff promote the program, as well. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister Moses. No further questions? Any further questions from committee? Seeing no further questions or comments from committee on these information items, please turn to page 44, Education, Culture and Employment, labour development and standards, operations expenditure summary. Total activity, $50,247,000. Does committee agree?

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Agreed.

Committee Motion 54-18(2): Tabled Document 261-18(2): Main Estimates 2017-2018, Education, Culture and Employment, Deferral of Labour Development and Standards Activity, Carried

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I move that this committee defer further consideration of the activity, labour development and standards under the Department of Education, Culture and Employment, Main Estimates 20172018 on page 44 at this time. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

A motion is on the floor and is being distributed. The motion is in order. To the motion.

Speaker: SOME HON. MEMBERS

Question

Question has been called. All those in favour. All those opposed. The motion is carried.

Carried

The labour and development standards activity has been deferred. Committee, before returning to the departmental total, we will consider the information items on page 48 to 54. I remind committee to specify the page on which your items can be found when asking questions. Does committee have any questions or comments on any of these information items? Mr. Vanthuyne.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am going right to page 54, which is the work performed on behalf of others. I am wondering if the department can let us know a little more about the Labour Market Development Agreement, which is a very large pot of money. What all goes on within that agreement, and where do we dispense a lot of this funding, and how do we dispense it? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Minister Moses.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The department will have to get back to the Member on that one with more detail on the program itself. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister Moses. Mr. Vanthuyne.

Okay. I thank the Minister for that, and that information would be appreciated. That is it, thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Vanthuyne. Any further questions? Mr. Nakimayak.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. On page 53, on the information on office space to deliver income security programs, in Ulukhaktok there will be a rise, but in Paulatuk in 201718 it shows 14, and on the future lease payments there is nothing on that. Can the department go into detail on that, please? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Nakimayak. Mr. Lovely.

Speaker: MR. LOVELY

Thank you, Mr. Chair. The reason for that is that that lease will expire at the end of March 31, 2018 and it hasn't been renewed yet. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Lovely. Mr. Nakimayak.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just a question. I know that you say it hasn't been renewed yet. Are there other options rather than the current location, and will the department look at renewing the lease for the future? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Nakimayak. Mr. Lovely.

Speaker: MR. LOVELY

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As with all of our other leases, we will work with our colleagues at the Department of Public Works and Services to ensure that the existing lease and other leases, other potential lease areas in town, will meet our requirements. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Lovely. Any further questions from committee? Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, I would like to ask the Minister if he could tell us which positions were cut, one position in Beaufort Delta and two in the South Slave, if he could just tell us what those are? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister Moses.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. There is one position that was in Inuvik. It was the coordinator of oil and gas. Then there were two positions in Fort Smith. One was the library and reprography assistant, and the other was the manager of program development and evaluation. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister Moses. Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, on page 49, the rollup of the various amounts to the district authorities and councils, education councils, and education authorities, my understanding from earlier discussion is that that number would go up by $5.1 million when the junior kindergarten money is put into it, so the new number for 201718 would be $156,869,000? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister Moses.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. In fact, that would be $2.7 million. The other one, the other part of that in that $5.1 million was already in the main estimates, so then, when we made the decision, the $2.7 million would be on top of this, and that would have to come through a supplemental.

Thank you, Minister Moses. Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, the Minister is advising us that the $151,769,000 that is in the mains includes $2.4 million right now for JK, and that there will be another 2.7 added to this through some sort of appropriation? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister Moses.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. That is correct.

Thank you Minister Moses. Mr. Beaulieu. Next we have Mr. Testart.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just have some questions on page 51, which gets into the detail on the Aurora College contribution. I see there are a couple of lines that have been decreased. I would like the Minister to explain what accounts for that decrease. In base operations, there has been just over $300,000 that has been cut to base operations. Can the Minister speak to that, please?

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Mr. Lovely.

Speaker: MR. LOVELY

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Under base operations, this would largely account for the increases to the fees that we were going to have. As I had mentioned earlier, we are reducing the contributions to Aurora College by approximately $300,000 as a result of them increasing their own sourced revenues. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Lovely. Mr. Testart.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Campus delivery has also seen a decrease, much more substantially. Could we have a substantiation for that decrease? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister Moses.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. As mentioned, there were some administrative reductions as well as the beginning of the social work program. That is where some of the details are. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister Moses. Mr. Testart.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Just to be clear, the decrease in lines from 201617 to 2017-18 is explained by administrative reductions and the end of the TEP program and Social Work Diploma program. Is that correct? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister Moses.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. My deputy minister outlined some of the reductions we are doing this year, and that is all relevant to that reduction in that line item. Thank you, Mr. Chair.