Debates of February 23, 2017 (day 59)

Date
February
23
2017
Session
18th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
59
Members Present
Hon. Glen Abernethy, Mr. Beaulieu, Mr. Blake, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Ms. Green, Hon. Jackson Lafferty, Hon. Bob McLeod, Hon. Robert McLeod, Mr. McNeely, Hon. Alfred Moses, Mr. Nadli, Mr. Nakimayak, Mr. O'Reilly, Hon. Wally Schumann, Hon. Louis Sebert, Mr. Simpson, Mr. Testart, Mr. Thompson, Mr. Vanthuyne
Topics
Statements

No, that's everything. Thank you very much.

Thank you, Ms. Green. Next I have Mr. McNeely.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am looking at page 262 here and it is a carryover from the grants and contributions from the previous page on 261. My question, Mr. Chair, is: who is this grant going to and are we seeing any results, seeing that it is the second year of operation?

Thank you, Mr. McNeely. Ms. Bolstad.

Speaker: MS. BOLSTAD

Corrections is currently working on a model for the contribution and funds that you see there. They are anticipating having that done in the next month or so for community organizations to access it. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Ms. Bolstad. Mr. McNeely.

Yes, if this budget 2017-18 is going towards that, did we have this program and who it went to from last year? Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. McNeely. Minister.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I understand that we did not disburse any funds under this category last year. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. McNeely.

I am sorry, Mr. Chair. Can the Minister repeat that there? I was listening to two voices at the same time.

Thank you, Mr. McNeely. Minister.

Yes, we did not disburse any funds under this category last year. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister. Mr. McNeely.

Yes, I just want to add to the wilderness programming and make a comment. I think some of us addressed it last year as well, the need for wilderness corrections programming, so it will be nice to see something done this year that we can have a showcase on integration corrections rehabilitation or corrections wilderness program done this coming year. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. McNeely. Would the Minister like to respond?

Yes, we understand what the Member is saying. Wilderness programming has had some challenges in the past in finding the correct providers of the program, if I can put it that way. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister. Anything further? Mr. McNeely.

Nothing further, Mr. Chair. Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. McNeely. Next Mr. Testart.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I just want to talk about something that is very important to my constituents in Kam Lake, namely the security around the North Slave Correctional Centre. So are we on track to make those security improvement to the facility that will prevent future escapes? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister Sebert.

Yes, Mr. Chair, we did examine the issues surrounding the escapes in the summer and we are very interested in making corrections so that this will not happen again. It is turning out that this is a more complex and expensive matter than we anticipated. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Minister Sebert. Mr. Testart.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I am all for brevity, but I was hoping the Minister could give a bit more detail than just it is increasingly complex. Kam Lakers need better answers than that, so I will turn it back to the Minister, if you do not mind, and get a bit more detail on these complexities. How much are they going to cost, and if the department is in a position to make these necessary improvements to keep my constituents safe? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister Sebert.

Yes, Mr. Chair. The courtyard, if I can put it that way, from which the escape took place is no longer accessible by the inmates. The issue is what type of fencing may be required, but perhaps I could turn the matter over to the deputy minister to expand on that. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister Sebert. Mr. Goldney.

Speaker: MR. GOLDNEY

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and unfortunately we are a little constrained in talking about the details of the security measures that will be required and will be put in place in a public setting, but we what we can say is as far as moving the necessary work forward, the department has done a critical incident report into that that highlighted areas where we could seek some improvements. Some of this did require some specialized and specific engineering studies, and those have been done and have been undertaken. The next step will be to implement that work, so we are looking forward to moving that forward as quickly as we can. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Goldney. Mr. Testart.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. I am pleased to hear that the studies have been done, the engineering studies, so we have an idea of what needs to be done. Is this going to be a capital expenditure that comes forward in the capital budget later this year?

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Minister Sebert.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. Yes, it appears that improvements that are needed will involve perhaps considerable capital costs, but as Robert Frost said "Good fences make good neighbours."

Back on the other side of the fence there, Mr. Testart.

Thank you, Mr. Chair. So again, is this going to be implemented in the fall through the capital budget or is it simply in the capital planning process? I am wondering when, again, my constituents will have certainty that this problem is solved. There are more houses going in right next to the jail every day, it seems like. It is a growing neighbourhood and I want to make sure that the people of Kam Lake have certainty that the facility that is right next to their families is a secure facility. So can we have certainty that this is moving along in this capital budget or if we are merely saying into the capital planning process at this point? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Mr. Goldney.

Speaker: MR. GOLDNEY

Thank you, Mr. Chair, and certainly our goal is to see some of these needs addressed as quickly as possible, and we are anticipating things happening as soon as this summer. Thank you, Mr. Chair, and I do not want to pre-empt the approval processes that may be required.

Thank you, Mr. Goldney. Next Mr. Testart.

Thank you for that. You have my support, 100 per cent of it. Whatever you need, make it happen. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

Thank you, Mr. Testart. Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, a couple of questions for the Minister. I would like to ask the Minister if the Corrections, that includes the Correction Division out of headquarters, follows the affirmative action policy? Thank you.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister Sebert.

Yes, Mr. Chair. Like the rest of the government, the department does follow the affirmative action policy. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister Sebert. Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, can the Minister commit to providing human resource stats for Corrections pertaining to affirmative action, the three categories, Priority 1, 2, and 3, including senior management positions? Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Minister Sebert.

Yes, Mr. Chair. I do believe we do have those figures, so we can certainly provide them. Thank you.

Thank you, Minister Sebert. Mr. Beaulieu.

Thank you, Mr. Chairman. That is all I have.

Thank you, Mr. Beaulieu. Mr. Simpson.