Debates of June 7, 2016 (day 16)

Date
June
7
2016
Session
18th Assembly, 2nd Session
Day
16
Members Present
Mr. Beaulieu, Mr. Blake, Hon. Caroline Cochrane, Ms. Green, Hon. Jackson Lafferty, Hon. Bob McLeod, Hon. Robert McLeod, Mr. McNeely, Hon. Alfred Moses, Mr. Nadli, Mr. Nakimayak, Mr. O’Reilly, Mr. Testart, Hon. Wally Schumann, Hon. Louis Sebert, Mr. Simpson, Mr. Thompson, Mr. Vanthuyne
Topics
Statements

Question 176-18(2): Addressing Homelessness in Yellowknife

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Yesterday I asked questions to the Minister responsible for Homelessness about the Housing First plan. Unfortunately, the information we learned was incorrect. Housing First in the city of Yellowknife has made a commitment to house one person by the end of August 2016 this year, and 20 people over the life of the project, not just one person. I am wondering if today the Minister can explain why inaccurate information was provided to this House. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Masi. Minister responsible for Homelessness.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. Thank you for that comment about the 20 people and another in 2019. The City of Yellowknife has actually put forward in a meeting with the city councillors and the Yellowknife MLAs that they would be piloting one person this fiscal year. They also put it in their June 3rd in the media that they would be housing one person within this fiscal year to begin with. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I think it's important that if this government is to invest in a real solution for homelessness, that we have a full understanding of all the options available to us. Housing First remains a viable option, and there's a big difference between building new shelter spaces and empowering people with their own homes. I'm wondering if the Minister today will commit to reconsider her plan and commit to matching the current funding for Housing First so we can address more of the critically chronic homeless who are in need and using 51 per cent of our emergency services.

The Minister is committed to addressing homelessness. We have put forward our agreement to partner with the city of Yellowknife within their Housing First model of housing one person, hopefully within the next three years to get 20 people in.

However, coming from this community, I know that if we were to only sit back and support only one agency providing one model, it probably would not be the most efficient use of our funds. To house one person within the community would not make a significant dent, and the other model would provide for 30 people. I must say that the other model is following a Housing First model as well, because Housing First does not only belong to the city; it belongs to whoever wants to use it. Even though the shelters will be using it, the location of the units will be separate.

There is already one agency within Yellowknife, actually, that does use the model that we are looking at, and that is the YWCA within their Rockhill. They have done this model for many years and they have shown it is successful, so if we have a model that is successful within our community, why would we not duplicate that so we can get more people into housing?

Certainly, the Minister is an expert in this field, and I respect her expertise, but I also am a Yellowknifer and I know that this problem is only getting worse, and when you look at the evidence-tested, proven methods that have worked across the country, Housing First is a clear model, a specific model that gives consumer choice and empowers people. That's what we are talking about today. I am wondering if the Minister will clarify her comments yesterday, this plan to expand the shelters to house 30 people. Construction will begin in the summer is what the Minister said yesterday. Can the Minister clarify if these are new beds or homeless spaces that are being constructed, or if it is existing beds and they are providing more dollars to the shelters to care for more people?

As most Members may be aware, once the move goes into Housing First, then we are at risk of actually jeopardizing the emergency shelters. Emergency shelters will always be a necessity within the homeless population, especially in the North because we have such a transient population, so if I was to go out and put every single person into a house today, by tomorrow, perhaps even this evening, we would have more people. My obligation is as we move forward in the Housing First model, we need to make sure that our emergency shelters are sustainable, and through that, if they are only based on the amount that they are given now per bed night, then that is not a sustainable model. The second part of his question, will these be extra funding to the emergency shelters? The money will not go into the emergency shelter component. We are looking at totally different spaces for the shelters, and similar, I will again now use the agency that has showed the success within our community. The YWCA does have a family violence shelter, and separate from that, they have the Rockhill apartments, which is again a successful model of housing families. We are looking at a similar model to house men and females so that these shelters are sustainable and that Housing First is actually a model we are using, so totally separate from the emergency shelter, but within the same facilities that provide those services. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Kam Lake.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker. To clarify, I don't think this is an and/or solution we need to look at. Shelters serve a very important role. Housing First is a separate model. Both are equally important, and it's about being compassionate. Everything costs money, of course, but we need to think about the compassion and supporting Northerners and empowering them to make positive choices. That's what we are talking about today with Housing First. It's a proven model that works, gets people back on their feet, and solves a real problem in our community, in our capital city. That is what I am fighting for, and I hope the Minister is hearing me loud and clear and seeing the good work the city of Yellowknife is doing.

Just to clarify, will new construction be going on to create these new 30 spaces? Is it new construction or is it using the existing space? Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Compassion is really important within the homeless population. I do adhere to the Housing First model, but I also recognize that within the North, we have other models that are successful, so I give credit to that. It's important to have a northern perspective on northern solutions. The final part to that question is absolutely yes, the units that we are going to be building for the semi-independent living will not be in the emergency shelter area. They are totally separate from the emergency shelter, and they will be independent units for homeless people, for chronic homeless people.

Speaker: MR. SPEAKER

Masi. Oral questions. Member for Yellowknife North.